1929 DeSoto Arthur Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 This is my first post and I live in New Zealand. I have a 1929 Desoto Six Model K and I purchased two wheels as spares while touring the South Island (in our modern) last year. Unfortunately I did have enough knowledge at the time to check these were the correct wheels for my car. They're not. Would like to know what model these are for, so I can pass them onto someone else who may need them. The hub size is 2 1/4" (58mm) - my Desoto ones are 2 1/2" (64mm). Tyre is 4.75 - 5.00 - 19 Hopefully the photos I have taken will help to identify them. Have also added a photo of my Desoto rim. I still plan to restore them as I find that enjoyable and rewarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 A close up photo of the clamping lugs may help ID them, also any name on these lugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Your rims look a lot like Jaxon but not quite the same as any in my 1930 rim catalog. The spare that looks like a Kelsey, which is correct for early 29 Desoto . The lugs also look like Jaxon. GM used lots of Jaxon rims , but several other did as well, Chrysler, Jewett and Gardner to name a few. For a positive I.D. you are going to have to remove a tire and tube and carefully examine the inside of the rim for any I.D. stampings. You will probably find both a Man. logo and a part number. Otherwise it is hard to be 100% accurate. Greg in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I do not believe the wedges are Jaxon, the rim certainly is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) Your unknown rims ( wheels) appear to be Hayes 490 for Marmon 1926-1927 ( also from another source, some 1928 Durant 75), see first attached picture. Catalog info shows 2 types of wheels originally on 1929 DeSoto. Kelsey-Hayes 689 and Clev Weld 25AB. Your silver spare is clearly not a Clev Weld. I believe it is a Kelsey-Hayes 689 that has had the latch repaired with welded on sleeves to take a bolt that holds the ends of the rim aligned. Not an uncommon repair. Hoping this is useful. Let me know if I can help further. Edited April 29, 2020 by Layden B error correct (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI_BENTLEY Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 The clamps/wedges are jaxon/motor wheel used in lots of late 20s cars most popular is Chrysler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Regarding these wheels it may be worth noting that Arthur's DeSoto, like my 1929 Plymouth, will have been built in Canada. It may have a bearing on the wheels fitted to it originally which may be different to those fitted to US production models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929 DeSoto Arthur Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 Thank you all so very much for you replies, much appreciated. I have much to learn so this is an excellent forum for me. 1. viv w - I have posted a photo of 6 rim clamping lugs - 4 from one wheel and two from another. Hope this helps. 2. 1912Staver (Greg) - I will remove the tyre if there no other way of identifying the make. I have had help in removing a tyre from my Desoto but that resulted in destroying the latch. Had the repair done which is now my spare. Not over keen on doing that again. 3. Laydon B - Thanks for the catalog details, most helpful. Have had latch repairs on two rims. One I help break when trying to fit the tyre and the spare was broken when I purchased the car. Have included a photo. 4. LI_BENTLEY - I have a friend who has a 1929 Chrysler so I will investigate and get back to you. We are now in Covid-19 Alert Level 3 in NZ so I can't visit him until we go to a lower level. 5. nzcarnerd - You are correct - my car s/n is OW664L so it was built in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Your clamping lugs appear to be C - 109 Kelsey Hayes. My catalog lists them as being used on 1928 Durant, 1927 - 28 Elcar , 1927 - 28 Locomobile 70, 1928 Star, 1927 -28 Marmon, 1927 - 28 Pierce Arrow. For the rims the most likely ones given the 19 inch diameter are the Durant , Star and Marmon . I doubt that a large car like a Marmon would have used only 4 rim clamps, so that leaves Durant or Star as likely suspects. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 As the clamps seem to be for Durant or Star cars, it is most likely that these wheels may be for a Rugby, as that was the name used in the Colonies. Viv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, viv w said: As the clamps seem to be for Durant or Star cars, it is most likely that these wheels may be for a Rugby, as that was the name used in the Colonies. Viv. Yes, the Rugby was popular here and there are quite a few survivors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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