Scott Mckenzie Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Hi gents,under the hood of my`64 at the junction block on the drivers side fender beside the horn relay is a small box 1x 1 .375 . I dont know what it does and when we took the cover off there is a small winding of very fine wire. The wee box has two spade connectors coming from the end and a small black wire attached to one spade connection that goes into the wiring harness. I appears to be fubared as the winding fell out when I removed the cap.Yet another quandary . I will do my best to supply a picture when i can sort out the new phone. thanks in advance ,Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 That sounds like the horn relay although one of the wires would not be black if for the horn circuit. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abandg Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Scott, I think it has something to do with headlights. I remember my 64 a long time ago and I just can't remember all the details. It was a long time ago and I could be wrong. Gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abandg Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Scott after reading your post again scratch my remarks from the record. Gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 That headlight relay your referring to Gene is on the R/front fender well attached to the fender-well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 11 hours ago, telriv said: That headlight relay your referring to Gene is on the R/front fender well attached to the fender-well. Hi Tom, That relay on the rt side is a marker light relay, correct? Or is it for the cornering lights? Dont recall... Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 From what I have read in the past, the relay on the right fender turns on the marker lights when the low beam headlamps are on, then turns off the marker lights when the high beams are activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 NOT marker lights BUT PARKING LIGHTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC1968Riviera Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 8/15/2018 at 11:53 AM, Scott Mckenzie said: I will do my best to supply a picture when i can sort out the new phone Scott, A picture is worth a thousand words! Hopefully you can post a picture soon to put everyone out of our misery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Mckenzie Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Will do this weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Mckenzie Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Mckenzie Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 At the junction block on the drivers side fender,Think I need a new one, any ideas..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Scott, That looks like the factory junction block/horn relay but it appears as though it has been moved toward the firewall. Maybe it`s just the angle of the pic.. The black wire which you described probably is the switched voltage feed for the horns. There should be another connector/wire which goes toward the firewall which is the voltage feed for the horn contact under the steering wheel horn bar. Not looking at a schematic but I would expect this wire to be green with a white stripe. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Do you have a wider angle picture -- like the whole inner fender? As Tom sez, that just doesn't look right. What it looks like, though, is an after-market horn relay with (perhaps) some altered wiring. Shouldn't there be a two conductor plug on that? Is there a random green wire coming out of the harness and connecting somewhere (e.g. another relay)? Follow the green wire back from the horns and see where it goes... What's that thing hanging off the right of the junction block? Edited August 18, 2018 by KongaMan (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Mckenzie Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Now with Photos! . I was pleased to get these pics up, what an ordeal for this luddite . the horn relay is to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 It still looks like an unused horn relay that has been replaced by the one on the right. Does your horn work now? And what is the smaller, light green wire coming in from the left? You might want to replace that whole mess with a proper horn relay/junction block. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Mckenzie Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Yes, I like the way you think, its been an anomaly since I got the Car.Horns work fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 If I had to guess (which is exactly what I'm doing ?), I'd say the wiring goes like this: For the stock setup, you'd move the green wire that goes to the horns to the unused terminal on the horn relay. Get rid of the green wire from the junction block to the relay. Find out where the light green wire goes, as it appears to duplicate the functionality of the black wire connected to the old relay. Remember, in the stock setup, the 12V to the relay (both to power the relay and to power the horns) is supplied via a direct connection to the junction block. The horn is activated by completing a circuit to ground when the horn bar is pressed. Hence, the only external connections needed by a stock horn relay are a) the ground to activate the relay (the black wire), and b) the power to the horns (the thick green wire). Make sure you connect the wires to the proper terminals on the relay. IIRC, the stock setup uses a two-connector plug , but it looks like someone has disemboweled it and separated the wires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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