Pilgrim65 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Hi Guys many of you know how much I love 50s ,60 s and 70s American, well I’ve come to the Istanbul Classic Car Show and I’m in my dreamworld , amazed these Turks love American to . I’m here as a club member so managed a pre opening walk round . Being a Buick man recognised those , but down to you guys to let me know if I’ve spotted anything special . Classics are very expensive here what’s 60 k in states is 170k here, but the standard of restoration looks very high, Hate to think what the Mercs and jags cost taken loads of photos so will post over next few days , enjoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel88 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 My favorite one is the 1958 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz. It looks like a very nice car that would probably sell for about $150,000 here in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Title sounds XXX rated. I'm kind of disappointed..............Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Bhigdog apologies , disappointed me to, I came here with bunch of Turkish Cypriot guys who talked like they were up for risky time , belly dancers etc , but come 11 last night they all went to bed ! Mind you they know how to drink , Raki and more raki , my head was buzzing when I took photos , accounts for the bad focus on some.? few more beauties here Edited June 29, 2018 by Pilgrim65 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Few more Edited June 29, 2018 by Pilgrim65 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 In the 1950s, there was a photo of President Eisenhower on a State Visit having a ride in Mustafa Kamal's V12 KB Lincoln. ( My parents continued a subscription to National Geographic for probably 40 years from when they visited Canada and USA in 1937-8). What happened to the Lincoln of Turkey's war hero , President, and founder of their democracy? That should be centerpiece of every car show there. They visited a big Trade Fair that was in Ottowa or Toronto. At a time when every family in Australia washed their clothes by hand, my mother was obsessed with the latest Show Special deal on the Beattie stainless steel washing machine . The roller wringer would reverse if something jammed, and the forward/reverse bevel gears were zinc diecast did not have great life expectancy. When the washing dried on the outside line, you could lift off the wringer and slip on the wide electrically heated drum ironer. My mother ironed even socks, undercl;othes, handkercheifs and face washers. With this deal there was a step ladder, a stool, and ironing board and rolling pin,, and a pastry board . Full price was 40 Pounds, delivered anywhere. My father asked the attendants if the delivery was indeed, ANYWHERE. They conferred. Where did he live? At a town called Moe, in the Australian State of Victoria. After more discussion , they said "Yes". "That will be No Problem". The whole lot was waiting for them when they arrived home. My mother would have nothing but a Beattie washing machine when the original; needed replacement over 25 years later. I apologise for the non-automotive content. It does show you how people lived and thought then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Few different , some I like , some not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Some specials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Please identify the brass era car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Saw one of the best classic cars I’ve ever seen here a 1930 Cadillac 16V original , must be one of the best and expensive cars here. mind you I expect the bat mobile original from film is worth a few bucks , post photos shortly Edited June 30, 2018 by Pilgrim65 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 My guess is that the car with wicker baskets on each side at the rear looks a bit like 1903 Ford or Cadillac . They had similar origins. If you had a chance to lie on the floor and count the cylinders you would know. If you saw it running you might know, too. Ford with a "boxer" twin cylinder arrangement should thump and vibrate much less than Cadillac's horizontal single. My friend David Dryden, who lives about 20 minutes away, has superbly restored examples of the first three Ford models; the A of 1903, the C of 1904, and the interim model like the A but with slightly larger bore. If that car is a 1903 Ford, I understand that the wicker basket storage indicates an early A. My knowledge of David's cars is limited by the infrequent need for original components to be rebuilt with thermo-spray coatings , and subsequent machine grinding to size/fit. You always have to appreciate why cars were built the way they were. I have a 1913 "copper pot" Cadillac project; and I would liken them to the early Rolls Royce as a triumph of workmanship over design, only more so. You could liken Cadillac design to that of farm machinery, but built with absolute precision and care. I do not have the computer skill to define the detail where there should be identifiable differences in your photos compared with other photos of cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 Ivan , I will look again at brass era car in morning , thanks for interest few more of my favourite cars pilgrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 Tasty mustangs to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) I recognize forum member Cengiz Arsay's '28 Peerless Boat Tail and ought-three Cadillac, and the original Batmobile from the museum in Izmir. Edited June 30, 2018 by jeff_a (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorialynn2 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 That yellow 1957 Skyliner Retractable is my favorite. ? Beautiful cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 12 hours ago, victorialynn2 said: That yellow 1957 Skyliner Retractable is my favorite. ? Beautiful cars! For you victorianlynn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Been told brass era 1903 Cadillac, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W_Higgins Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 23 hours ago, Ivan Saxton said: My guess is that the car with wicker baskets on each side at the rear looks a bit like 1903 Ford or Cadillac . They had similar origins. If you had a chance to lie on the floor and count the cylinders you would know. If you saw it running you might know, too. Ford with a "boxer" twin cylinder arrangement should thump and vibrate much less than Cadillac's horizontal single. My friend David Dryden, who lives about 20 minutes away, has superbly restored examples of the first three Ford models; the A of 1903, the C of 1904, and the interim model like the A but with slightly larger bore. If that car is a 1903 Ford, I understand that the wicker basket storage indicates an early A. My knowledge of David's cars is limited by the infrequent need for original components to be rebuilt with thermo-spray coatings , and subsequent machine grinding to size/fit. You always have to appreciate why cars were built the way they were. I have a 1913 "copper pot" Cadillac project; and I would liken them to the early Rolls Royce as a triumph of workmanship over design, only more so. You could liken Cadillac design to that of farm machinery, but built with absolute precision and care. I do not have the computer skill to define the detail where there should be identifiable differences in your photos compared with other photos of cars. An easy way to tell from the front is the Cadillac used a larger radiator mounted at an angle, which is what we see here. Ford radiators were vertical. Also, if you zoom in you can see what looks to be the trademark Cadillac scroll on the side of the sleigh front. Agreed though, unless you have the right angle to see enough detail it can be difficult to differentiate between the two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 This is why I love this forum. Everything from thermo-sprayed parts to the Batmobile to Ivan's mother's Beattie washing machine to a retractable for VL to a V16 Cadillac coupe that (that is still a coupe) to Istanbul. If someone asked me if I thought there might be old American cars in Turkey, I would envision a few old junkers, patched together with rags and 2x4s like you would see in Cuba. This is eye-opening. Thanks to all for all the great times over the years. Bill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorialynn2 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Thank you @Pilgrim65! Looks like a great museum. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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