sligermachine Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 How come one is so shiney the other is so dull when I picked it up today I was surprised it was so shiny the other radiator is nickel to the platers said has a small bit of gold in the tank to to help it shine ezer ? is that bull or ?? kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFranklin Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Nickel should be shiny when used as brightwork. There are different types and processes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 The only other type of Nickel plating that I have ever heard of is Hard Nickel Plating. Anyone know anything about that? Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Terry.I’v never heard of hard nickel plating,but hard chrome plaiting are used on industries. Leif in Sweden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) Kyle, Not sure if you are trying to be 100% accurate with your car, or just putting it back together. You have a lot of parts and Buick made a lot of changes. The following comparison is based on the 1925 Buick Standard, and the 1926/27 Buick Standard. I don't know all the specifics of Master models. I do know the 1925 Master also had the slots for the lacing and the shell was 5" thick. My car came with the wrong radiator and shell, even though it fit the car as an assembly. I have since been able to find the correct ones. The easiest way to tell a 1925 shell is that it is the last year for slots for the lacing. Hugh Edited December 9, 2017 by Hubert_25-25 (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Hubert_25-25 said: Kyle, Not sure if you are trying to be 100% accurate with your car, or just putting it back together. You have a lot of parts and Buick made a lot of changes. The following comparison is based on the 1925 Buick Standard, and the 1926/27 Buick Standard. I don't know all the specifics of Master models. I do know the 1925 Master also had the slots for the lacing and the shell was 5" thick. My car came with the wrong radiator and shell, even though it fit the car as an assembly. I have since been able to find the correct ones. The easiest way to tell a 1925 shell is that it is the last year for slots for the lacing. Hugh The shell that i picked was the thick one I have 5 that came with the cars its a big difference in them I post picture of them lined up of course the best looking one was not the right one so I had to plate the right one in my 1925 book its says its 1/2`` thicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Kyle: From your photo it looks to be a 1926-27 shell with the lacing held on by rivets instead of lacing through the slots as Hugh has shown. Point of reference ... If your car had an accident say in 1930 and you went to your Buick dealer for a replacement factory shell he would have sold you a shell for a 1926 or 1927 as 1925-1925 style was no longer available. I have seen many 1924 and 1925 Master and Standard Buicks with later style shells. Fitment of the radiator shroud to the newer shell can be problematic since some of the mounting holes do not quite line up. My 1925 Master has the correct shell but has scabby brazed patches on the bottom and was painted black. Also the top was misshapen when they tried to install the reworked radiator core. I picked up a complete 1924 6 cyl radiator that is not as badly rusted on the bottom but someone cut out some of the lacing flange. So even to put that shell into plate-able shape it would require extensive welding. Larry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 sligermachine,don`t really understand what you meen with the nickled radiator,but when doing a tripple chome plating they start with copper to fill upp to get a good surface,then they use nickel,an after that the chrome over the nickel. If your nickled radiator are not "shiny"as the chromed radiator anything got wrong! the only differens are the "color"nickel plated things are a little bit"yellow" but as shiny as chrome.This`s my nickel plated radiator made a 1/2 year ago. Leif in Sweden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 You may find some answers here: http://www.sharrettsplating.com/coatings/electroless-vs-traditional-nickel-plating https://advancedplatingtech.com/electroless-nickel/electroless-nickel-phosphorus-content/ https://www.pfonline.com/articles/electrolytic-and-electroless-nickel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 the one on left is not shiney at all I thought that was how nickel looked but looks just like it was plated yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 All 3 of your shells here are 1925 since they have the slots for the webbing. Try using chrome polish on the dull one. The bottom radiator looks like they ran a tube thru the shell, but maybe it is a hose just stuck to the shell? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 For some reason I just thought it was dull like my steering callem looks like it was just plated but dull looking kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 15 hours ago, Leif Holmberg said: sligermachine,don`t really understand what you meen with the nickled radiator,but when doing a tripple chome plating they start with copper to fill upp to get a good surface,then they use nickel,an after that the chrome over the nickel. If your nickled radiator are not "shiny"as the chromed radiator anything got wrong! the only differens are the "color"nickel plated things are a little bit"yellow" but as shiny as chrome.This`s my nickel plated radiator made a 1/2 year ago. Leif in Sweden. I can store your cap hear if u like !! kyle I'll keep it safe and dry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 10:07 PM, Hubert_25-25 said: maybe it is a hose just stuck to the shell? No i wish its a hole with pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 10:09 AM, Mark Shaw said: You may find some answers here: http://www.sharrettsplating.com/coatings/electroless-vs-traditional-nickel-plating https://advancedplatingtech.com/electroless-nickel/electroless-nickel-phosphorus-content/ https://www.pfonline.com/articles/electrolytic-and-electroless-nickel Yes lots of answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 2:45 PM, Hubert_25-25 said: I do know the 1925 Master also had the slots for the lacing and the shell was 5" thick. My car came with the wrong radiator and shell, even though it fit the car as an assembly. that is why the liner inside the one with slots was painted to match the car !! but I read the master had 1/2`` longer or wider thats why i plated the othe grill kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Master and Standard shells and radiators are the same depth in any given year. The shells became deeper by 1/2" in 1926. The radiator thickness did not change. The Master is taller than the Standard and has a hole in the radiator and the shell for the crank to go thru. Because the Standard shell and radiator is shorter, the crank is below the radiator and shell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Kyle: Here is a link to an upcoming auction of a 1924-45 Touring for further reference. The radiator shell is also a 1926-1927-style. https://www.rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/AZ18/Arizona/lots/r166-1924-buick-series-24-six-touring/565980 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 On 12/14/2017 at 1:56 PM, dibarlaw said: Kyle: Here is a link to an upcoming auction of a 1924-45 Touring for further reference. The radiator shell is also a 1926-1927-style. https://www.rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/AZ18/Arizona/lots/r166-1924-buick-series-24-six-touring/565980 wow that is the radiator I Just plated how u find that ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Kyle: I tried to buy a 1915 Buick Model 36 Roadster at R/M auction at Hershey 2 years ago and I still get notifications for their upcoming auctions. Of course the 1924-45 caught my eye. Photo of one I bid on in 2010. The correct shell was re-nickeled and they also did the mounting brackets. They were to be black. Ended up that the engine was locked up. I sent a reply to the PM you sent and included some of these photos of the 1924-44 roadster. This also had the 1926-27 shell. Larry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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