nick8086 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/the-government-is-coming-for-your-cars/ar-AAom4DF Not sure how you would apply this to a junk yard..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2Wrench Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Interesting news, thanks for posting. The idea of new taxes is almost as troubling as the grammar in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 It's ultimately about confiscating your older car due to it's not meeting modern emissions and fuel efficiency standards. In California they want you to fail the smog test and then pay you $1,000 to scrap it. And where does the state get the money to pay owners to scrap them? By raising everyone's registration fees. They want older cars off the roads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 At the risk of getting in trouble for making a political statement. Be very careful who you vote for. Some people do not think we should have or drive our old cars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Government is harsh.. I have to get new plates.. Because it does not have the year the car was built on it.. It has been on the car since 1980.. If I get new one. I will install them under this one.. The one ticket I will get it was covered.. Edited March 28, 2017 by nick8086 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 The irony is that by the late 70s emission standards were so strict they were practically as clean as today's cars. Not many people know this. They also don't know that cars are 97% pollution free and have been for more than 30 years. Ask your friends what percentage of air pollution has been reduced and when. The answers you get might surprise you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.M.X Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 FYI, guys, it's actually old news. MSN and HRM didn't do their homework, or else they wanted to get eyeballs by being alarmist: https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2017/02/14/oregons-1000-impact-tax-on-20-year-old-vehicles-spiked-soon-after-introduction/ dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 9 hours ago, Rusty_OToole said: The irony is that by the late 70s emission standards were so strict they were practically as clean as today's cars. Not many people know this. Not many people "know" this because it is completely untrue. You can find the standards by year at this site. Here are some excerpts: HC emissions: 1977 - 2.0 grams/mile 2009 - 0.8 gm/mi CO emissions: 1977 - 20 gm/mi 2009 - 3.4 gm/mi NOx emissions: 1977 - 3.1 gm/mi 2009 - 0.14 gm/mi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) You forgot to tell us what they were putting out in 1962, last year before emissions standards came into effect. Can you tell us what year cars became 90% pollution free which is more or less what I meant by practically as good as today's? From your chart it appears standards have not changed much since 1984. That means taking cars off the road, that were built after 1984, is not going to do anything. And cars made before that date are so few that the pollution they contribute is negligible. My point was that taking cars off the road and destroying them is not going to do anything for air pollution. Edited March 28, 2017 by Rusty_OToole (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 30 minutes ago, Rusty_OToole said: My point was that taking cars off the road and destroying them is not going to do anything for air pollution. I don't disagree with that statement, but I sure didn't get that from your prior post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I should correct my statement from "late 70s" to "1984". Thanks for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Let me break it down for you. 1) Politicians want to pass laws forcing you to scrap your old cars, or pay a tax 2) The public supports this because they believe taking old cars off the road and scrapping them is good for the environment 3) They are not aware that car engines are 97% pollution free, and have been since 1984 4) If the public knew the truth maybe they would not encourage jackass politicians to pass stupid laws. Hope this is clear Edited March 28, 2017 by Rusty_OToole (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 It is all about the taxes.. not the cars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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