sosuzguy Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Please speak up about this important topic and make your voices be heard. Every bit of my cars drivability problems went away with discontinued use of Ethanol blended fuels. http://energycitizens.org/issue/renewable-fuel-standard/damaging-our-engines/ Edited June 13, 2016 by sosuzguy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrP Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Personally I'm not interested in getting involved in a crusade to change Federal laws. I don't have time. However, I would like advice from other members on the best brand of fuel in California to use in my '63 401ci . I have been using Union 76 premium but they can't (won't) tell me how much ethanol is in their blend. Since I live near Laguna Seca race trackI also add about 25% high octane - racing fuel to each tankful at a premium cost of $7-10/ gallon. Further, in Kalifornia where, thanks to unscientific environmentalists laws, we have "special" blends that change with the seasons. Anyone have any suggestions for brand of fuels in California? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The connivers at the federal level have their plate full trying to keep ethanol alive. The product is proving itself unworthy of funding. And the "dependence on foreign oil" is a questionable argument when one looks at the problems US cities are having with rail traffic of EXPORT oil. Then look at the poor condition of the US major sea ports. How are all those import tankers getting in to unload? My heavy ferrous metal, low RPM engines are doing just fine and I don't keep fuel in the tank long enough for biological colonization. Interesting, those guys on the website look about the age I was when we were encouraged to go shoot up Southeast Asia. I wonder how cynical the five of them will be 50 years from now. I think you need a younger audience. Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 18 hours ago, DrP said: Personally I'm not interested in getting involved in a crusade to change Federal laws. I don't have time. However, I would like advice from other members on the best brand of fuel in California to use in my '63 401ci . I have been using Union 76 premium but they can't (won't) tell me how much ethanol is in their blend. Since I live near Laguna Seca race trackI also add about 25% high octane - racing fuel to each tankful at a premium cost of $7-10/ gallon. Further, in Kalifornia where, thanks to unscientific environmentalists laws, we have "special" blends that change with the seasons. Anyone have any suggestions for brand of fuels in California? http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sosuzguy Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 Guess it's been a while. Last I heard nothing but ROA members complaining about ethanol in fuels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sosuzguy Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 35 minutes ago, 60FlatTop said: The connivers at the federal level have their plate full trying to keep ethanol alive. The product is proving itself unworthy of funding. And the "dependence on foreign oil" is a questionable argument when one looks at the problems US cities are having with rail traffic of EXPORT oil. Then look at the poor condition of the US major sea ports. How are all those import tankers getting in to unload? My heavy ferrous metal, low RPM engines are doing just fine and I don't keep fuel in the tank long enough for biological colonization. Interesting, those guys on the website look about the age I was when we were encouraged to go shoot up Southeast Asia. I wonder how cynical the five of them will be 50 years from now. I think you need a younger audience. Bernie Thanks for you informative input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Always happy to inform and enlighten. Good topics to look into. Empirical data is when you stand on the east side of the Hudson River and say "Wow. Does in always smell like this?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Jayson, The E body Rivieras you're driving / restoring were designed for the ethanol blends. You shouldn't have any worries. It's us older guys who drive the 50 year old cars who are looking for the non-ethanol fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sosuzguy Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Ed that is such a wrong comment. There was no engineering in 1985 for ethanol blended fuel. My cars all have the same fuel lines and carbs that get gummed up with ethanol. Edited June 14, 2016 by sosuzguy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Sorry my bad, I was remembering that there was something printed below the gauges those cars of mine like yours. But now I remember that it said Unleaded Fuel Only; nothing to do with ethanol. As I said, my bad. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrP Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 5 hours ago, RivNut said: http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=CA Thanks Ed. Good info however, there are no supply sources near me on that list. Closest is Bradly (Lake Naciamento Marina) which is 90-100 mile round trip. I could count on using 10 gallons of fuel just on the trip to get fuel.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimera Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Well, ethanol fuel can be made fairly easily by us commoners. It is not so hard to convert even an early Riviera over to 100% ethanol car I am told and then you can distill your own fuel. Ethanol should actually clean an engine and avoid having filthy pollution coming out the exhaust. We have a bunch of people doing similar actions locally. Cars should have been steam, electric, ethanol, solar, from the beginning but obviously there is mass manipulation. Im too lazy at this point, so give me that leaded premium! My comments are a bit off topic however. Edited June 14, 2016 by Chimera (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimera Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I was just watching velocity. Guy had a carb that got all slugged up because of ethanol in the fuel. Hehehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 My finding has been that ethanol won't hurt your car if you drive it regularly. It's when you let it sit in the carb bowl for months on end without starting the car and running it that you have problems. I drive all my old cars at least once every three weeks and I've had no problems whatsoever. You have to keep the fuel fresh at all times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sosuzguy Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Winston the difference in the way the 307 runs on non ethanol fuel is amazing. I will be seeing you soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet64rivi Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Grab a few gas cans and head to your local airport. Have them fill you up with 110 octane low lead pure gasoline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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