alsancle Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) This picture was taken in the late 50s somewhere around Penn. I assume Roamer? Any chance it is still around? Edited January 25, 2016 by alsancle (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 No pix AJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) That radiator shell does not look like Roamer, but the fenders and wheels sorta do. The Roamer had a Rolls-Royce style radiator shell. Edited January 25, 2016 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 No pix AJ. I'll email it to you Curt. Weird you can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Interesting. I see my reasonably high res image has been cut down to 85k. A forum thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) I'm thinking Stutz....radiator shell, fenders and rear window are a match....Note the garaged roadster spring perches.... Edited January 25, 2016 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 For some reason I had it my head that the rear fender mounted spare was a Roamer thing. But then I couldn't find any pictures on the net to back that up. Perhaps you are correct and it is Stutz. I have another view of it that I will try to find and post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Here are some Roamers: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?51752-Orphan-of-the-Day-06-04-1920-Roamer-Touring http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?52710-Orphan-of-the-Day-07-10-1921-Roamer-Town-Car-Landaulet http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?54989-Orphan-of-the-Day-09-29-1920-Roamer-Roadster Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 WOW! Let's hope it is still with us, add Cunninghham to your search list. Fenders look a lot like theirs, and the radiator shell; changed in late 1920's. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 That Stutz in the shed is the former A.K.Miller car, now fully restored in a dark green and in Jay Leno's Garage. BobI'm thinking Stutz....radiator shell, fenders and rear window are a match....Note the garaged roadster spring perches.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 1919 Cunningham: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?47370-Orphan-of-the-Day-12-29-1919-Cunningham-V3-Touring 1925 McFarlan: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?59198-Orphan-of-the-Day-02-16-1925-McFarlan-Twin-Valve-Six Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Here are a couple of close ups. Not sure why I can't post hi-res images to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Three things, the thin ring type wire wheel knock off , steering wheel location, and rear spring forged swan neck mount. Is this a European built car? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Got this on a 1915 Lancia Google search, spare is close to the same spot.......... Oh well I did try, forgot this site doesn't cut and paste well, you'll have to do the Google search on your own. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gillingham Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Bob, now that you've said Lancia, I think that's close. The Trikappa's and Kappa's had that type of rear dumb irons. This is a photo of a Trikappa for comparison. The header tank on the radiator doesn't quite match, or the rear chassis rails. FIAT's also had those rear dumb irons in this period. Edited January 26, 2016 by Craig Gillingham (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Here is the Lancia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 I found to more views of the same car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Could be perceived to have right hand drive which would make it a Stutz. Looks to be a four passenger tourer from about 1920-21. Series G? or H? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Based on the cowl lights we need to look at Daniels. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gillingham Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Mercer? 1914 maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Stutz seemed closest but I couldn't exactly match up the hood sides. I looked at 1914-1920 Mercer and the radiator shell didn't look right and none had the full hood vents.Bob, on the Daniels I couldn't find hood vents that were similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Here's a 1917 Mercer: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?52065-Orphan-of-the-Day-06-15-1917-Mercer Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Most definitely Stutz identified by those rear spring hangers. Layden Butler can tell you which year around 1919 Stutz used Rudge Whitworth wheels instead of Houk with the six pins as well as the taper seat. The reason many four cylinder Stutz died was if they accidentally engaged two gears at the same time because the selector interlock was not perfect. Exhaust was on the left side for Stutz 4 cylinder; and on the Right side with the 4 cylinder Rochester Duesenberg engine in the Roamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Post script. Thank you for the excellent detail of the radiator of the Lancia. The one I have to make for my 1911 Lancia Delta. Incidentally, does anyone chance to know of a radiator or any other mechanical parts for an SGV about 1911-13? They were built from Lancia drawings, and might help me replace missing parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Ivan, There is a restored 1913 Lancia a half mile away from me if you need radiator dimentions and photos I think I can get them for you. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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