Hudsy Wudsy Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I've been admiring a '39 Royal Winsor sedan. My questions for you are is that an overdrive knob to the left of the steering column? Also, does anyone reproduce the dashboard plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Since no one who knows what they are talking about has answered, I will give it a try. The knob may be for an overdrive. If it is, you should be able to follow the cable thru the firewall, under the car, and find it attached to the overdrive unit behind the trans. One of us should get under and look. You are closer than I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnArthurSpinks Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yes, that is the overdrive to direct drive control knob.One knob position gives you direct three speed transmission and the other knob position gives you free wheel and overdrive.RegardsJohn Spinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 The car is some distance away and owner doesn't know much about it. I'm just trying to gather whatever info I can in advance of taking a long drive. Since I first started this thread, I've learned how hopeless the dash plastic situation is, though. It's a shame. I've always wanted to own a '39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Usually the knob would be pushed in to engage the OD.In for in OD out for out of OD. Not positive on the mechanical OD but that's how the electrics work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm afraid that at this point the question is moot. I would pay a good price for a '39, especially this one in green, and with an overdrive, but the dashboard plastics and the interior condition makes far from a $11,500 car: http://marshall.craigslist.org/cto/5140247723.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Have you tried searching the WPC Club site for the plastic? I seem to remember a few guys that got together and had some of that stuff made up. I think one of the guys was Bill Names from California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Call Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 The problem of deteriorated plastic on instruments may not be a problem for long. I say a program on local TV about an "incubator" program being instituted a local community college. One of the kids highlighted was a computer science major and he writes software to create 3D images and divers to recreate those images with a 3D printer. He said he has people contact him and come in with a idea and they work together to create the desired item with the 3D printer. I would think that the damaged parts could be the base for a 3D scan and then refined with a CAD program to the desired product. Then a programmer could create or utilize available programs to drive a 3D printer. If you really like this 39 Royal, make a reasonable offer and worry about the plastic later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) I wasn't going to bore you nice folks with details, but I did do some research and amongst the things I read on the subject (I think through WPC site) was that someone who seemed knowledgeable on the subject said that current resolution on 3D printers wasn't sufficient to do a decent job, but that will change soon enough. Removing the plastic and applying a faux finish to the metal underneath has been satisfactory in a couple of cases. The seller also makes mention of the interior condition, as well. I'm afraid that, in all honestly, I see a $6,500 car at best, though. Thanks to all of you for sharing your thoughts on the subject. Edited August 21, 2015 by Hudsy Wudsy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickydicky43richard Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Re plastic dash cover , why do you have to be so accurate, in my opinion they look fine with the plastic removed and sprayed a complimenting colour. If by chance you were (by a miracle) able to return the dash to as new off the show room floor then this would laugh at the rest of the car. I dont know only saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 I thank you for your thoughts, as well. You are probably right about simply painting them a solid, compatible color. I know that I read of others who tried with mixed success to faux paint them, and that probably played a role in my lack of enthusiasm. I have to admit, though, that what is probably playing a role in my thinking, here, is that I recall genuinely agonizing two different times over buying two separate '38 - '39 Hupmobiles. though they are conventional cars mechanically, I love their rare and distinct Raymond Lowey styling and handsome lines. In both cases I almost made the commitment, but ultimately decided that their hideously deformed plastic (Tenite, actually) dashboards would keep me from ever being able to enjoy driving them. I can and do tolerate flaws all of the time, but right in front my eyes while driving seems like looking through a badly cracked windshield, to me. Back to the price for a moment, though...does anyone see this car as being worth over $10,000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickydicky43richard Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) There is a process that might be worth investigating called "Hydrographic Dipping". It is often used on hunting Firearms to coat the gun with an excellent camouflage pattern. This is a process where parts are chemically treated to clean and prime, then the parts are lowered into a vat of water with a specially printed/patterned thin plastic film floating on the top of the water.As the parts are lowered into the water they drop to the bottom and the special patterned plastic film coats the parts with the chosen pattern. This a fairly simplified explanation but I guess easily "Googled" over to you,R Edited August 22, 2015 by trickydicky43richard (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 On the 46-48s if you were to remove all of the plastic you would be looking at a bunch of holes.Probably the same on the older ones as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 There is a process that might be worth investigating called "Hydrographic Dipping". It is often used on hunting Firearms to coat the gun with an excellent camouflage pattern. This is a process where parts are chemically treated to clean and prime, then the parts are lowered into a vat of water with a specially printed/patterned thin plastic film floating on the top of the water. As the parts are lowered into the water they drop to the bottom and the special patterned plastic film coats the parts with the chosen pattern. This a fairly simplified explanation but I guess easily "Googled" over to you, R I remember now having seen this process on one of the "How it's made", or other such science/technical television shows. It was really remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickydicky43richard Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 My 39 Aussie Gauge panel and Glove Box lid did not have any unwanted holes after plastic removal. It was then painted a vintage cream and looks really great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Evans Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Here's a comp. I just paid $8500 for this one.http://www.ebay.com/itm/131584989690?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Reg, thanks for this. It's a beautiful car and I one that I'd love to own. My opinion is that $8500 is a fair price for this one. I think that the green one is overpriced by $4000 at least. I wish you lots of fun with your new old Chrysler! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Evans Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) My plastic panels are long gone and a previous owner covered them with off white grainy vinyl. Crappy job. All of the dash knobs have turned to dust.Is anyone making new reproductions knobs ? I'm going to remove the vinyl from the two panels and paint them a cream color. Edited September 16, 2015 by Reg Evans (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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