R W Burgess Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 This wheel hub pictured in Cedar Rapids this past weekend was chrome plated. Is this correct?Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yes, but I think what you see is actually a cover, and not the hub itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Well, I did not question it at the time, since this was before the judging actually started. No point in making car owners nervous before the team shows up.Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl B. Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 West, as to correctness, wouldn't it depend on the model? My 901s are black, and show no signs of ever being chromed.... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Why one would order the optional hub cover then paint it black??? The reason for the cover is to add bling. If one wanted the hub a certain color, they'd just paint it, rather than put a painted cover over it???? Edited June 26, 2012 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 Here is the balance of the Packard pictures. Yes, it looks like there is certainly some bling going on.Follow this link to the balance of the Cedar Rapids pictures. Cedar Rapids Special Fall Meet - AACA Photo Gallery @ Antique Automobile Club of America (AACA) ForumsWayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Here is the balance of the Packard pictures. Yes, it looks like there is certainly some bling going on.WayneNot much, actually. Just the hub covers, whites, sidemounts, mirrors and the stone guard is all I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD in KC Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 My knowledge of Packards comes to a screeching halt at the year 1941. Were the chromed acorn nuts standard when that engine was built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 They were standard in 1932 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Yes, I believe so. I'm not sure when the chromed acorn nuts became an option (as opposed to standard equipment), but I know that by 1940 they were optional even on the top-of-the-line cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 I was surprised to see the grey/silver paint on the bottom of the block. It simulated an aluminum lower block. It looked great but did confuse me.Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbartlett Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I was surprised to see the grey/silver paint on the bottom of the block. It simulated an aluminum lower block. It looked great but did confuse me.WayneIt wasn't to simulate an aluminum lower block. The crankcase, which was separate from the cylinder block, was in fact aluminum, and most restorers paint them an aluminum color both to prevent oxidation and reduce oil penetration. As for the cylinder head bolts, they came from the factory nickel plated, I think from the mid-'20s on. Packard was very proud of the dressy appearance of their engines -- or so I've read. Regarding the hub covers, they were commonly chrome plated, and even some disc wheels were chromed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I was surprised to see the grey/silver paint on the bottom of the block. It simulated an aluminum lower block. It looked great but did confuse me.WayneJames is right. The cylinder block is just under the head. The silver bottom is the crankcase, and is made of aluminum.My question to Packard32, and maybe to James and Jeff as well. Why would the optional wheel hub covers be anything but plated? Would they have ever been painted? If a customer wanted color, the hub, itself, would be painted. Packard32, are you sure your car has covers? Or is it the hub itself that is painted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Not sure of the year of the car in question. According to the parts book " wire wheel hub shell covers" were used on the 7th series cars with wire wheels while for the disc wheeled 7th series cars only a "hub cap" is listed. On the '32 900 with discs a plated and painted 1 piece hub cap was used that looks like 2 pieces but actually isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 The car in the OP is a 1930 Model 733. The "approved accessories" book lists "Chromium-Plated Hub Caps and Hub Sleeves. It is the "Sleeves" that Wayne was asking about in the OP, not the caps. There would be NO reason for the sleeves to be painted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I'm saying that the parts catalog does not list hub sleeves for the 733 with discs. Only thing they list for the 733 with discs is hub caps. If the sleeves were an option not listed in the standard parts catalog I agree they likely were always plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I guess what confuses me is your parts catalog stating "wire wheel hub shell covers." What the heck are they talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen_Dyneto Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 West, wire wheel shell covers are what's often referred to as "Ace" covers, Ace being one of the makers of them. I just posted pictures of several Packards with the wire wheel shell covers on PackardInfo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Ahh, I see. I call those "full wheel covers". I have a set of 17" and kind of like the look of them and wish I could justify using them on my 900. If you look at the '32 Accessory Catalog it shows the sleeves and they are clearly plated though I suppose a dealer would have happily painted them if you wanted though I fail to see the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Not much, actually. Just the hub covers, whites, sidemounts, mirrors and the stone guard is all I see.Don't forget the red paint. Nice car in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 If you look at the '32 Accessory Catalog it shows the sleeves and they are clearly plated though I suppose a dealer would have happily painted them if you wanted though I fail to see the point.That's what confuses me about Packard32's statement. Why would someone buy the covers, only to paint them???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl B. Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 West, where I'm adding on to the garage, I can't easily get to the car. When I can, I'll look again and see.... Any of us can get things cornfused...haha....B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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