gundog99 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 We all need a bit of luck occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsnooks Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 My 26 DB is a 6 volt. Are you usung old or regular size battery cables?I had nothing but grief until I upgraded my battery cables(advice from friends with 6 volters). I went to a welding shop and bought 02 welding cable(almost double size of regular cable) and new connectors. I did not ground to the frame. I grounded to one of the bolts connecting the starter to the bell housing. No more issues. If you think it was wired for 12 volt, connect using booster cables a 12 volt battery direct to the starter. disconnect the cable to the starter switch so you dont screw up anything 6 volt. Many guys use 12 volt on their 6 volt starter without problems. Just try it a couple times to see if it turns over ok and still smokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hi there,thanks for the advice but the problem has been fixed now. It's 6 volts but the overload was down to a poor rebuild...Cheers,Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) I am revisiting this thread because there is a bit more of this saga to report. Those of you who were following the sad tale of how my starter motor was entrusted to a supposed "expert" for a rebuild will remember how his shoddy workmanship resulted in failure of the unit. I found a number of basic faults which I was able to correct but over the last few months the smoking had returned and the motor gradually slowed to the point of corrigendum. Eventually I decided to leave the starter motor with a local auto electrician who has carried out a comprehensive rebuild. I refitted the starter motor today and the results were most impressive! Total cost £100 . Edited July 3, 2013 by R.White (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Not that L100 is chump change but it could have been a lot worse. And since you were able to start it with the crank, the 'overloading it' argument was pretty weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted July 4, 2013 Author Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) Mike. When I took it to this local guy, I dismantled it on the bench in front of him and pointed out where the armature was touching the sides (the steel clamps in the middle of the field windings showed signs of rubbing) so that there could be absolutely no mistaking what was wrong or what needed to be put right. I also explained how I had been ripped off by the other so called "expert". I got a sympathetic hearing and a promise of a working unit within a week. True to their word, the work was completed to a high standard, on time and within budget. This guy had no doubts that it was a 6 volt unit and detailed how he had to re work the "new" centre bearing plate because previous poor work had left the armature running at least 2mm off centre - it was not new as I had previously been led to believe - he undercut the commutator and replaced the brushes which were contaminated with oil! The field windings and armature checked out o.k. but bushes had to be replaced. The only problem he had was that the pinion was not compatible with any of the gears on his torque tester but experience (he's an old guy) has taught him that there would not be a problem. The end result is a starter motor which spins the engine like a top! Ray. Edited July 4, 2013 by R.White (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 TWO MILLIMETERS OFF CENTER??????? :eek: That's about .008"........whoever did THAT job must have bored out the center bearing on a drill press!I can't believe the armature turned at ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) It makes you wonder, doesn't it? You may have read previously on this thread how I was totally ripped off by an "expert" who, admittedly, had done good work for me before at a reasonable rate. I had even written to praise his firm for the quality of their work. This time, something had gone seriously wrong and I had to pay up £500 or walk away without the starter motor and they are unobtainable here. It would have been bad enough if the rebuild had been properly done. The present rebuilder found quite a few faults with the previous work carried out by a guy who somehow operated under the "trusted trader" scheme and had been in the business for 25 years with satisfied customers including Rolls Royce owners. No longer trading, I believe.Ray. Edited July 6, 2013 by R.White (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Um, well I don't mean to be picky but there are 25.4 mm to the inch so 2 mm is about 80 thousandths or 0.080". For reference, a human hair is roughly 0.003" which is less than 0.1 mm. This is the kind of stuff that can make bridges fall down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 ^ Y'er right......got the place holder fouled up my head....... At any rate there is no way ANY armature has that kind of air gap.......aside from a grade school science project "nail motor"....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 All I can say is that now I have found a rebuilder who I can rely on I will be sticking with him. They do a fair bit with old cars and presently have an early "sit up and beg" Ford Popular in for work. I said that I had one of those as my first car and it only cost me £2.00. Joking, the guy said that the one in for work was worth twice that! At least the joke is not at my expense this time!Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsmrossi Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Are you still active on here? I have a couple questions on a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Ray sold his Dodge a couple years ago. I think he still visits the AACA forums occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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