Guest Doobby Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I just bought a 1927 Dodge Brothers Coupe. From some of the documentation with the car, I think it's a series 124. The car is complete and runs. My problem is that I don't know anything about the car, Including how to drive it. I guess that you have to advance the timing as you work through the gearbox.?.? Can anyone tell me where to get good information on this car? An owners/operators manual? Original color? Etc, etc?Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 There are really two major things that make driving the DB 3 speed different from a more modern standard shift car. The first and probably the hardest to get used to is the non-syncromesh transmission. This essential means engine speed and road speed must be matched to allow smooth shifts. If not matched, gear grinding will probably occur. The 2nd major difference is brakes. Unless I'm mistaken, 1927 still used mechanical brakes on the rear wheels only. This means you don't have the braking power of a newer, 4 wheel hydraulic brake system and so must judge stopping distances accordingly (longer distance, more pedal effort). The timing and fast idle levers on the steering column aren't such a big deal. You just want to make sure timing lever is to retard spark position for starting the car and the fast idle lever is adjusted to keep idle speed up when the engine is cold. Oh and there is the choke over on the far left that you would pull out for a cold start. The spark lever can be advanced (up) once engine is running. The Dodge Brothers 'Book of Information' goes into more detail on starting and shifting. Reprints are usually for sale on Ebay or from the two principal vendors that sell early DB parts (in the U.S.), Myers Early Dodge and Romar. Have fun driving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 1st step is finding and posting the serial number. It is on the passenger side frame rail just above the rear shackle of the front spring. Also originally on the toe board upper passenger side on an aluminum plate. I am fairly well versed on the 124 models. Easiest i.d. is the distributor mounted through the cylinder heard and the carb and exhaust on the right hand side of the engine. If it is a 124 you will find the choke to the right side of the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Another difference on the 124 is the timing and hand throttle is in the center of the steering wheel, around the horn button, instead of behind the wheel. Shift pattern is like modern cars instead of the backwards earlier DB's pattern. Yes, rear wheel brakes only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Hand throttle and timing is in the center of the steering wheel. SN is A926951. Trying to post a few pictures.Really appreciate the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 A few pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Thanks, MikeC5. From your post I'm assuming that the starting position of the timing lever is down, or at about 3 to 4 o'clock. This may explain the rough idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Nice looking machine Doobby. I have a '25 touring car and it does appear that the spark and idle is handled a little differently on '27. I'm sure more knowledgeable folks on this style will chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 It is indeed a 1927 124 model. Built between June 7th and June 21 1927. Looks like a nice car. I would love to see more pics of, especially the dash, steering column, engine compartment, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 DB's have centrifical advance in the distributor as well as manual on the steering wheel. You can pretty much just advance the timing once it is running and not mess with it til you go to start it again.Double clutch when you shift. As I said earlier, the 124 has the modern SAE shift pattern so nothing to get used to there, other than double clutching due to no synchros and straight cut gears. The "D" fast four engine has 5 main bearings and has more beans than the earlier engines. BTW, engine numbers should be D950,000 or higher.Your interior looks all original except for the 1 black face gauge. Amp gauge? It has the standard dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Will upload more photos as soon as I can. For some reason, pics won't upload right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Will upload more photos as soon as I can. For some reason, pics won't upload right now.Limiting your photo pixel size to 2000 pixels or less in both directions will help load photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Thanks for the tip, Keiser31. That seemed to do the trick. Another exterior pic and an engine pic. Now that I'm trained, more pics to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Nice! Other than an aftermarket coil it looks pretty correct. I need a couple of those little clamps that hold the choke cable to the vacuum line. Anyone have extras or know where they can be purchased? Doobby, one simple thing I would change, run the fuel line around the front of the engine on top of the timing cover. You will avoid the dreaded vaporlock problems. Where it is now is right between the block and the exhaust and will definitely get hot there. There should be a steel loop type clamp on one of the timing cover bolts to hold it steady. Other than that, Happy Motoring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Anselmo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Dave, looks to me like that clamp is just a small (1/2") screw type hose clamp that was placed around the choke cable and the vacuum line. I'd be worried that it would eventually wear through the copper line and cause a vacuum leak.Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwollam Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 By Golly Jim I think you are right! Well, in that case I don't need those! LOL There are some factory clamps that work like that, I think my DA had one, can't remember for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 After a little more research, I found out that my coupe's original color was Tartan Green. Can anyone show me an example of Tartan Green? Can't seem to find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Can anyone tell me anything about the roof on my '27 DB? I'm assuming that it's the original and in bad shape. Where can I find a replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Scafani Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 original color Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Thanks, Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Thanks Doobby for the pictures of your new, cool Dodge. My '25 touring is similar, It's green, but repainted in the 1960's, I think. some of the red pinstriping is worn off in places. I'm not quite sure if it is Tartan green, looks a bit lighter than the coupe pictured at the above post. I have been compounding and waxing the finish. I've taken off a lot of grime. On your Dodge, pay close attention to the bottom insides of the vacuum tank, where water settles and rusts them out from the insides. The vendors sell new gaskets for the Stewart vacuum tanks, get your hands on a copy of the "owner's manual" where there is great info on the driving and owner adjustments of your Dodge. The Mechanic's Handbook is of great value also for more in-depth adjustments and repairs. You're going to have a real blast driving that coupe!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I've been tooling around the neighborhood lately and it's great. Have some issues to work out, but nothing we can't handle. Problem is that there's just not alot of information out there. Mine has a 4 cylinder D engine. Can't find any info on that. I have the mechanics handbook, but it only shows up to the C engine. Anybody know where I can find something on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hello all. This was an old thread that I started right after I bought this old gal. Alot of the questions that I asked, now seem a little stupid. The guy that I bought it from told me about advancing the timing. Turns out, she was just tired and in need of some expensive TLC. Since this thread was started, she went into the shop and underwent major reconstructive surgery.Here she is now, just a month or two from coming home. Check her out and let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Ya gotta love wooden wheels! Beautiful job! Did you chrome the bumpers or silver with clear? Hard to tell from the photo. The engine looks fresh too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Looking really nice. I like the dark blue/black combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doobby Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 The bumpers are just painted, for now. The price of plating is OUTRAGEOUS! Used the $3,500.00 that the plating would have cost to finish a few critical things. I had the radiator shroud plated, just because it's prominent and a pain in the ass to get back off. The bumpers and headlight bezels will get plating at a later date. As for the engine, she's fresh as a daisy. COMPLETELY rebuilt. There's only two things on the car that hasn't been rebuilt: the gearbox and the rear end. Both were taken off, inspected, painted, and put back on. The only reason that they weren't rebuilt is because the guts were in perfect shape. I really think she's going to be a beauty when she's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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