Trulyvintage Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Tip I will pass along ... This company @ Biodiesel Salesis selling on road #2 diesel currently at $3.52 a gallonand off road diesel/fuel oil at $2.95 a gallon.They are located in Miamisburg, Ohio.I ran across them & filled my pickup tank on Friday .... I know this is biodiesel but if your heating oil tank stays above freezing, that is 50 cents or more a gallon savings ..... I don't think they deliver - but they have 250 gallon on up transfer tanks on skids they rent or let you use to transport ....Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave@Moon Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Awesome, bookmarked!Jim, do happen to know if they sell and or fill by the 55 gal drum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Call Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Truly and Dave:I am sure the price differential is because the heating oil is not subject to motor fuel taxes. If the State and feds know you are buying heating oil and using in your diesel truck on public roads they would be a few degrees less than happy. Also there might be some stiff fines invlolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 Awesome, bookmarked!Jim, do happen to know if they sell and or fill by the 55 gal drum?Call ahead ...They will fill any size containerJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 Truly and Dave:I am sure the price differential is because the heating oil is not subject to motor fuel taxes. If the State and feds know you are buying heating oil and using in your diesel truck on public roads they would be a few degrees less than happy. Also there might be some stiff fines invlolved.Partly true ....#2 on road diesel rose to $4.15 a gallon todaySo, that is a 65 cent plus savings there#2 off road/farm/heating oil averages $3.50 a gallon or higherSo, that is a 55 cent or greater savings thereJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Maine Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Seems like I recall several "episodes" in the past where people made their own bio-diesel and publicly told about it in the media - only to have the Feds move in and attempt to collect taxes on it and/or they faced hefty fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Seems like I recall several "episodes" in the past where people made their own bio-diesel and publicly told about it in the media - only to have the Feds move in and attempt to collect taxes on it and/or they faced hefty fines.Read the link ....This is a company that has been in business 6 years at the same locationNothing shady going on here .....Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave@Moon Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Truly and Dave:I am sure the price differential is because the heating oil is not subject to motor fuel taxes. If the State and feds know you are buying heating oil and using in your diesel truck on public roads they would be a few degrees less than happy. Also there might be some stiff fines invlolved.Actually I live about 20 miles away and have been looking for a bio-based heating oil for my furnace. I don't have a diesel vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I wonder if they dye their fuel like off-road diesel fuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I wonder if they dye their fuel like off-road diesel fuel?There you go, the real bugaboo with using undyed fuel on the highway, unless it's a farm vehicle. Big fines for big trucks, little guys may get away with it..... for a while. It can not be RED guys!!!A humorous story, one of my trucks was pulled over and had samples taken out of the fuel tanks. They were really confused when they saw the yucky white colored oil that came out of the right side tank. That was our hyd tank for the hyd pumps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I've always heard the off road diesel was dyed red where as road fuel was un-dyed. So if you're running un-dyed stuff there's no way to tell. The diesel fuel I get at the pump for my Mercedes doesn't look dyed. I actually run WVO in it and only use diesel fuel for starting and purging before shutting down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Actually I live about 20 miles away and have been looking for a bio-based heating oil for my furnace. I don't have a diesel vehicle.They had 250 gallon shipping containers on skids used for transport.i don't think they will deliver.If you check out the link, it has their phone number.Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 I wonder if they dye their fuel like off-road diesel fuel?There you go, the real bugaboo with using undyed fuel on the highway, unless it's a farm vehicle. Big fines for big trucks, little guys may get away with it..... for a while. It can not be RED guys!!!A humorous story, one of my trucks was pulled over and had samples taken out of the fuel tanks. They were really confused when they saw the yucky white colored oil that came out of the right side tank. That was our hyd tank for the hyd pumps! I've always heard the off road diesel was dyed red where as road fuel was un-dyed. So if you're running un-dyed stuff there's no way to tell. The diesel fuel I get at the pump for my Mercedes doesn't look dyed. I actually run WVO in it and only use diesel fuel for starting and purging before shutting down.No dye in this biodiesel ....It all comes from the same tank.The price you pay depends on the use.I paid the on road diesel price & got a receipt.Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Call Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 If you guys are buying off road diesel and/or heating oil and using it as motor fuel on public roads you are taking a big gamble. EPA regulations requires off road fuel be dyed red. IRS requlations requires that heating oil and other motor fuel tax exempt diesel oil be dyed red also but with 5 times the concentration of dye so it stays red even when diluted with taxed clear diesel. If this place you ae talking about is selling off road diesel and heating oil without red dye they are breaking federal laws.Diesel produced for government and tax exempt institutions is dyed blue. Use of blue diesel by anyone not tax exempt is a federal offense.Saving a few bucks could cost you thousands in fines and attorney fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Regular diesel is a bio fuel. It comes from dinosaurs, as "bio" as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 There is actually a law in Washington that permits you to use home brewed fuel for highway use without needing to report it to the revenue dept. Using it is legal as you personally use what you make. You cannot sell or commercially distribute it. This was brought up in another forum I belong to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 As a suggestion guys, you probably should check your local laws before heading down a "bumpy road" like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 There is actually a law in Washington that permits you to use home brewed fuel for highway use without needing to report it to the revenue dept. Using it is legal as you personally use what you make. You cannot sell or commercially distribute it. This was brought up in another forum I belong to.As a suggestion guys, you probably should check your local laws before heading down a "bumpy road" like this one.This Thread has gotten off track ..... I posted a tip about a local company that has been legally operating 6 yearsselling locally produced biodiesel ....I am pleased that at least one member may benefit from the tipin purchasing heating oil for his furnace ...Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 This Thread has gotten off track ..... I posted a tip about a local company that has been legally operating 6 yearsselling locally produced biodiesel ......JimWhat you said was fine Jim. It's just that some states have different laws and everyone should be aware of them before jumping on the bandwagon. You may buy a perfectly legal dyed fuel in Ohio or somewhere, but coming into a state that does not allow it can run into trouble. The day I got stopped was at the Virginia/Maryland line, and those fellows were serious looking.Personally I'm just saying that everyone should collect "ALL" of the data before making hasty decisions that can cost you money in fines.Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 What you said was fine Jim. It's just that some states have different laws and everyone should be aware of them before jumping on the bandwagon. You may buy a perfectly legal dyed fuel in Ohio or somewhere, but coming into a state that does not allow it can run into trouble. The day I got stopped was at the Virginia/Maryland line, and those fellows were serious looking.Personally I'm just saying that everyone should collect "ALL" of the data before making hasty decisions that can cost you money in fines.WayneWayne,With all due respect .......Your point is valid - but this thread was just a notice of a good priceon legally available home heating biodiesel and on road biodieselAs I have stated - I purchased on road biodiesel and got a receiptNo law broken ....Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Ok Jim.How were the members of the forum to respond? If it was just a notification of that particular fuel provider, I would suggest locking the thread.You surely know how us members are? We love to make comments, sometime stupid ones as I have done in the past, all in fun though, of course.Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Wayne,Perhaps if folks take the time to read before they reply ...Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I respectfully agree with Wayne. I would say that the initial post should have mentioned not to comment or some such point. Hindsight being 20/20. Otherwise, I would say there has been some good information here. I posted one time about the possibility of purchasing a "hobby" garage and the thread went south on issues of underground storage tanks with good information I was not aware of. It just happens on a public forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I've had diesel cars and pickup trucks off and on since 1972 and never had my fuel tested once or been stopped for fuel test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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