karasmer Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I am a brand new member from MN and need help identifying a Graham Paige I am looking to restore that was on my Grandmothers farm.Description-blue 4-door dual cowl vents, wood wheels,red and chrome hubcovers, and the dash has 5 sq. gauges with the center one a bit larger. The bottom of the dash is stepped-not a smooth curve like I have seen. I am guessing 1930, anybody have any ideas? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 No Camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Karasmer, Might have some bad news... the gauges look like 1929-31 Graham Paige but I have never seen a Graham with the step down on the bottom of the dash?? I have several Graham Paige Cars and should have no problem identifying it if it is a Graham Paige. Looks like the car is in pretty rough shape, might even be able to help you with body parts. More pictures would be great, the back of the car, maybe side shots, radiator shell also helps. Most likely the body tags are gone, they should be in the back seat floor area passenger side. PS I own my Grandfathers Graham, took six years to find.Graham Man, in SEMN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 I would not say it is bad news,The family rumor was that the car was a Graham Paige and the dash gauges seem to match and this pik of the radiator. It may also be an early mopar. I have no other photos at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) The shell is a 1931 Graham-Paige shell. Edited September 1, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 Ya you could say it's rough,extemely rough. The cowl seems ok and the front doors,back doors are rusted along the bottoms pretty heavily. I have the axles some wheels,hood,and steering column. Not sure of the frame-still have to dig it up,no engine or transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 I have hours and hours into trying to identify the car and that dash throws me off.If it is a Graham Paige I will most likely will try to do a restoration, mostly for nostalgic reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 I found some hardware in the garage I stripped off it about 25 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Now we are getting closer. Looks like second series 1930 Graham radiator shell (they dropped Paige after 1930) Paige was reserved for Commercial cars (only built in 1931, long story). So it could be a second series 1930, 1931, or First series 1932 (another long story). You said you have a hood and rear door? That will close up the gap some more. If the door has a small or almost no bite out of the bottom (for the rear wheel opening) it was most likely a big car. If the hood is long it would have been an eight, short hood six.We are getting there, would love to know more about the dash...Graham Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Nice save on the parts! They look like six parts (much more common) and good for you if you want to restore the car. That would place us at...1930, 612 or 6151931, 45 Special six or 46 Standard six1932, Prosparity six (56) or 54 Special six or 53 Standard sixGetting closer...Graham Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Sorry about that my mistake, I checked more of my references. The dash is from a 1931 45 Special six or a 1932 model 54 Special six, almost identical cars. I would say you have arrived! OK the difference is 1931 had dual bumper blades across the front and back of the car and 1932 had single blade bumpers.Graham ManThe picture posted above from Keiser31 (black Graham) is of a 1932 Model 54 Special Six, should be the same as your Graham Edited September 1, 2011 by Graham Man (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 Thanks guys, I will track down an old photo my brother has and check on the bumpers to see if it was a 31 or 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I know there was a factory Graham-Paige dealership in Minneapolis MN. I was told there was a dealership in Jordan MN. Would be great to see the picture if you are willing to post it?Good Luck with the restoration, great cars to drive, let me know if you need any help,Graham Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) The car is located in the woods on my Grandparents old farm in Embarrass MN I made a deal with the new owners to retrieve the car. I will bring it to my home (rural Duluth) to work on it.I will post some pics.I see potential most see scrap. Edited September 2, 2011 by karasmer (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Glad you see potential instead of scrap. I was trying to figure out what year your car is from the dash but with the 1st series, 2nd series confusion between the years, I let someone with a better eye for Graham Paige cars chime in.Can't wait to see the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Make sure you really check the farm closely. Lots of old cars were turned into farm wagons, I would be willing to bet yours was. Old Norwegians and Germans do not waste anything. Check the barn rafters for bumpers and wheels you will be surprised what you will find if you look close. Let me know if you need any help, Graham Owners club is a great source of information and parts. graham-paige.comGood luck,Graham Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 I will, this was a Finnish farm and part of the rear was turned into a snow scoop.I will be asking the neighbors and relatives also if they know where any items may be. Thanks for offering the help. I just hope the frame is still usable,I will find out next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I might have a good body in Rochester, I still have to go look at it. Cowl back with doors and interior, you guessed it made into a wagon, but this one was stored in the barn. I think it is a 1930 six sedan it would put your project into warp drive. It should not be hard to come up with an engine and transmission. With the hot rodders taking them out by the day just have to be in the right place with a truck most of the time.Good luck digging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Awesome-I will be bringing a big magnet along also,never know what's buried.Not sure if the hood is correct I think I counted 25 louvers,I will find out shortly.One of my other brothers has a door handle,my brother-in-law has the front axle,2 wheels, and possibly the headlights. The rear axle is on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Well I have been out of town for a few weeks but I did get the remaining parts,and a few photos, but no frame. I will post a photo of a nearby trailer-Possible graham frame? Edited September 29, 2011 by karasmer (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Anybody have any new information on the year or model based on the piks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Great save on the parts! I will stick with 1931 45 Special six or a 1932 model 54 Special six, 31 was dual blade bumper 32 was single. The only question I have from the pictures is you have 10 spoke wood wheels, some had 12 not sure on the date break down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Are you going to try to put it back togather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasmer Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 I am looking for a frame.engine and trans.... (maybe the trailer in the photo is the frame?), I duct taped all the pieces together so now it looks like something. If I can't find these parts then it will be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary56 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Karasmer would you have any parts left over from your cars? I am looking for window crank handle (2) and outside door handles. I am also looking for a king fuel Level indicator. Any help would be most appreciated, thank you Gary56 Edited April 6, 2022 by Gary56 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now