Guest 30Advance Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I found this car in Central Montana. I gathered all parts that I could find and here it is. What Is It? I have checked with Velie collectors and Overland but no. The last gues was a Paige. There is no brass tag on the firewall anymore. I decided to save it from the scrapper's torch, so I brought it home. Any guesses would be greatly appreciated. Dave in Montana;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoneyPit Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Is that a radiator shell in the trunk? If so it's picture might help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Looks to be similar to a 1924 Essex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest De Soto Frank Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Based on the style of the drum headlights and the rear-hinged door, I would guess mid-Twenties Essex Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 30Advance Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Thanks guys, I did some research and found out that this car is a 1924 or 1925 Essex Coach. I learned that the front fenders of my style were used during these years and that the 6 cylinder engine was introduced in 1924. 1926 may have had smooth front fenders by looking at different photos I found on the internet. By the Way, this parts car is available if anyone is interested. Dave 406-860-3923 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexch Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It looks like the exhaust manifold outlet is at the front of the engine. What would be the rationale for that? an early turbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It looks like the exhaust manifold outlet is at the front of the engine. What would be the rationale for that? an early turbo?That's a coolant delivery tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dictator27 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It looks like the exhaust manifold outlet is at the front of the engine. What would be the rationale for that? an early turbo?The exhaust manifold is in picture #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 The exhaust manifold is in picture #4.Yes...it empties out the rear of the side manifold near the firewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest De Soto Frank Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 "Front-dump" exhausts were not uncommon back then... I believe I've seen a few circa1930 Dodge Brothers where the exhaust dumps at the front end of the manifold log and the pipe loops back under... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) "Front-dump" exhausts were not uncommon back then... I believe I've seen a few circa1930 Dodge Brothers where the exhaust dumps at the front end of the manifold log and the pipe loops back under...Yep....some late '20s and early '30s Chrysler products had them that way, mostly on the four cylinder Plymouths and the DeSoto sixes. Edited May 2, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 My 28 Pierce also has the exhaust exiting at the front and the pipe passing right under the updraft carb, not real smart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 The serial number should be on the right rear of the frame near the cross member - possibly also on the dash. 1924 - 100001 to 177750. 1925 177751 to 337949. 1926 continues from there. 1927 starts again at 500001. The engine number is on that boss just by the water elbow. I don't have the numbers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve29 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 The engine looks a lot like a 1924 Studebaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 The engine looks a lot like a 1924 Studebaker.Except that the Studebaker is a lot bigger and has its manifolds on the other side. This Essex engine was used right through to at least 1941 still with three main bearings. It was very short so restricted the possible bore sizes - max was 3 inch. It started off at 124 cubic inch (2 5/8 x 4) but was underpowered so early in the season went up to 144 (2 11/16 x 4 1/4) and by the late '30s was 3 x 5 (212 cubic inch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wac Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 As an Essex owner for 31 years, I have looked at a lot of them, and this is definitely one.It's a fairly rare car. Not many have been restored.You might check the resources of the Hudson-Essex-Terraplane ClubHudson Car Club - Hudson, Essex, Terraplane CarsBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RonB Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I found this car in Central Montana. I gathered all parts that I could find and here it is. What Is It? I have checked with Velie collectors and Overland but no. The last gues was a Paige. There is no brass tag on the firewall anymore. I decided to save it from the scrapper's torch, so I brought it home. Any guesses would be greatly appreciated. Dave in Montana;)Well... at least someone was thoughtful enough to place a can on the water outlet to prevent rust happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Early Buicks had the front dump exhaust too, for years. TexRiv_63, Look on the bright side. Your front dump exhaust helps keep a lot of heat away from your feet through floorboards in the Summer and I think you may be missing your engine's splash apron to separate the carb from the exhaust pipe, along with other reasons to have the splash aprons in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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