MikeC5 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I discovered a small spring loaded cover plate with a keyed lock under it on top of the transmission. I'm guessing this was an anti-theft feature? It is marked Yale, which is still a lock maker (I think). Anyone have any luck finding the correct key (or key blank) for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangabro Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 MikeC5 - I have been looking here in OZ for someone who may have a sample key / blank that can be copied etc. To date I have had no luck. If someone does know of a source for such keys (anywhere), it would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 I know some of you have the key to your touring car transmission. Can anyone please post some good photos of it so we can see what the blank is supposed to look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBrinker Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I tried to have a key made for my 25 Touring I took the lock to 3 different lock smiths and no one could find a key blank to work.Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I have a copy of the original patent I think for that lock if you are interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backyardmechanic Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 The Late Bob Long told me one time that this was one lock that there was no key blanks available.His suggestion if one had such a key is to unlock the tranny then thow away the key as one couldn't get a replacement if the key came up missing.Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangabro Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I have a copy of the original patent I think for that lock if you are interested1930 - You have a copy of the original patent - ie. description, design/pattern, drawings or something. If so I wouldnt mind having a look at what info you have. It may help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Sure thing, send me your e-mail and I will get it right off to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 I'd like a copy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 File is much too large, I can only send via e-mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyAus Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Problem easily solved!The key blank you require is a YA3. There is a number on the bottom of the lock barrel (mine is DB253) which may assist your locksmith in cutting a replacement key. An original key is marked Yale "security" which may give him a clue as to the series for code purposes. Otherwise, the locksmith can pick the lock and reconfigure the tumblers to suit a selected key profile.If needed, I can send you a copy of my key and you can work from there (providing you don't intend to swipe my prized 1925 roadster !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I just caught this thread and it sparked interest. May I have a copy too?Many Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Give me an e-mail Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Hi Tony,Thank you for the key blank information. When you say a copy of your key, do you mean you have an extra key? I would be afraid it would get lost. If you can take a few high resolution close up photos of one (for e-mail) that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Give me an e-mail BillEmail sent.......Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyAus Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Hi Tony,Thank you for the key blank information. When you say a copy of your key, do you mean you have an extra key? I would be afraid it would get lost. If you can take a few high resolution close up photos of one (for e-mail) that would be great.MikeI can send you a copy at cost - $A6 plus postage.Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platt-deutsch Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 If you send me the code # on the lock I will send you a key for $10.00 plus $2 shipping 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Hi PD, that would be great. Are you certain you can do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBrinker Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I'll send you my number and money as soon as I get to my building to find out what number it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 My luck, I just looked and can't find any number on the lock. I would still like to get a blank or two and see if I can find a locksmith locally who could do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platt-deutsch Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Yes.. I can do it and I checked and I have the correct blanks in stock. If you send me the lock I can fit a key to it also. I am a Locksmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'll see if I can pull it out of there this weekend. Thanks PD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 Got it out tonight. Here's a photo. It did have numbers on the hidden end too. I'm sending you a PM and see if the numbers make sense P-D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 If you have a chance to show the front ( put tape over the # if you are concerned ) I am curious to see it, I have never seen one and am still unclear how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 Sure, here you go. It appears that the key allows the shaft with the flat blade end to turn. There are two ball bearings (maybe 3/8" diameter) in holes that are drilled perpendicular to the hole the shaft-blade goes in. These balls ride on each side of the blade side of the blade so depending on the blade position, the balls can be forced outward if the blade is turned to align with the ball holes. Apparently this condition pushes on a pin that keeps the sift fork rods from moving. I'll have to look at the patent again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I see, so clean, I expected a rusty hunk of lock assy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 I was lucky the little spring loaded cover stayed on there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 I got the keys back and tried it and though they are definitely the correct blanks, the key code didn't translate correctly. I had a locksmith take it apart and make the pins work with the new key. I should have sent the lock off to have it done but the end result works. So I give a thumbs up to this source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBrinker Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Got my keys in the mail to from platt-deutsch and they work great,If it wasn't for the Message Board I would have never found them Thanks Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platt-deutsch Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Glad they fit! If anyone else needs keys just send me the code number on the lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mhwilliams Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I have a 1927 roadster with that lock in the transmission. How did you get it out? Does it jus pull out? I would like to try to get mine out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 ^ Ditto with my '25 Sedan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 It has been a while since I did this so I'm a bit hazy but here are the basics: remove front floorboards and then remove cross member (see arrow in 2nd photo). Disconnect speedo cable and move any other items obstructing top cover of transmission. Note that right next to the lock cylinder is a round pin that engages a scalloped area on lock cylinder (see photos). Remove all of the bolts that hold on the top of the transmission. Carefully lift the cover straight up to disengage the shift forks from the gears below the cover. Turn the cover assembly over so the shift forks are pointing up. Look in the area where the lock sits and see the flat blade that rotates with lock. Next to the blade is a small hole directly in line with the pin observed from above before.Use an appropriate sized drift to tap the pin out (i.e. from bottom towards top)You should now be able to remove the lock cylinder assembly from to top side of trans cover.Re-install in reverse order and lightly tap the tapered pin back in place (don't over do it or you'll damage the key cylinder)Reinstall cover on transmission being careful to line up shift forks with the gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 THANKS Mike!....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Glad to help. Let us know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Here's my orig. Transmission key for a '25. I found it tucked behind my rear-view mirror a month after getting the car. It works smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27dodger0 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Got it out tonight. Here's a photo. It did have numbers on the hidden end too. I'm sending you a PM and see if the numbers make sense P-D.I had a member of the DBC warn me to not try and get ths functional, as it may cause you more troubels than it's worth!! Your call!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 No problems with mine so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 No problems with my lock either, BUT---as a very low-level security by today's standards, having the trans locked in neutral only makes easy flatbed heists easy, with a touring car, no door locks and just the parking brake on makes it easy for anyone to pull the car out and away. This is the least of my worries as my insured cars are locked in my barn anyway. The BIG benefit to this shifter lock is USING it at local car shows. There have been many times I wander away from my cars for many reasons. It has happened that a "young person", in age or mental capacity has entered the vehicle and stepped on the starter button. Needless to say, if the vehicle has been left in gear, it WILL move. God forbid there is nobody's knees against the front bumper when that happens. In my experience, not many parking brakes will hold too well, IF they're even set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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