Guest AONEMACH Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I played with this car in the woods when I was 14 years old and 32 years later its still there and looks exactly the same.This guage was in the center and contains volts,oil and temp guages.There is 2 smaller guages one in front of driver which has speedo and the other is a switch.The body of the car completly rusted to the ground the engine is a 6 cylinder,wood rims,hyrdrolic brakes. I have always wanted to know hope someone can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Early 400s... Roman Empire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Definitely stone age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 How about some pictures of the motor and chassies. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1928Packard526 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 AONEMACH —I definitely agree with Dandy Dave that a photo of the motor and chassis would be a big help. There is also the problem of your mis-identification of the gauges you do show us. I believe there is no temp gauge present. You have identified the ammeter as a voltmeter (attached heavy wire speaks to that difference). Voltage measurement requires only the thinnest wire and the instrument face indicates "charge" and "discharge" not a voltage range. The large K-S gas gauge dash unit is not a temperature gauge but a fuel gauge. The third gauge may well be a oil pressure gauge because of the apparent tubing that was connected to it, but there is not enough left to be even certain of that.The unit was mounted in the dash with the gas gauge at the top. This is indicated by the input line coming to that gas gauge and the discharge-charge designations on the ammeter face.As a SWAG (Scientific Wild A-- Guess) I place the car in the mid-twenties. Buick perhaps?Pete P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 The description of hydrolic brakes leads me to believe something like Reo, or Chrysler??? Probably not a Duesy. I agree with the mid to late 20's. Not many cars had Hydro brakes at that time, Should narrow it down. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Can you remember if it looked like this.Buick 1924-1927. Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 The rectangular gauge is a King-Seely type gas gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1928Packard526 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Leif —The outline of the gauges shown in your post certainly looks like a close match to the gauge unit in the original post. The arrangement of the actual gauges differs quite a bit and that might help in narrowing down the year. Did Buick actually have hydraulic brakes that early, or is AONEMACH maybe mistaking a cable actuated brake system for hydraulics? After so many years there could be some confusion in appearance. Hydraulics so early would really be unusual.Of course later conversion to hydraulic brakes is always another possibility. A master cylinder of some sort should still be around in the rubble I would expect, if the brakes were truly hydraulic.Pete P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Chrysler had hydraulic brakes in 1924. Many other high-end cars got juice brakes by '28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I have another picture of a REO 1927 in bad shape but maybe that can be the right ones.Buick didn`t have hydralik brakes at this time. Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AONEMACH Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Leif this looks close, its raining today but im going to get pics of the chassie and engine and brake system. I always believed this to be an oddball high end car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Not a Chrysler instrument cluster. It DOES look a lot like the Buick dash shown, but there is no "widow's peak" on the top as in the Buick. I think it is REO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AONEMACH Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Here are some pics that should help you guys out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 How about a picture from the gauges.???? Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I would definitely think REO now that you have shown the steering column parts. They match the REO interior photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1928Packard526 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Leif —I think REO is the proper ID for this car. The picture you attached matches the parts in the woods in just too many respects. The remains of the steering hub, the shape of the clutch and brake pedals, the metal embossing of the panel above the dash, the location of the foot accelerator and foot rest, the hand brake top and location all match the REO as well as can be determined. A REO expert might be able to recognize the bumper badge. I still see no evidence of hydraulic brakes, but the round structure attached to the firewall above what I assume is the starter is puzzling.The remains of the engine should be easy for anyone Familiar with REO to either recognize or disallow.Pete P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mercman86 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 If you look closely at the bottom picture of the engine and zoom in real close you can see a metal line connecting to a brake flex hose. Bottom toward the left on the frame rail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleek Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 check this link to help decide. wwwjliptrap.us/thecar.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1928Packard526 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Fleek, and all that are chasing this ID question —Fleek does have a point about possible hydraulic brakes when you study the portion of the photo he calls out. Could that round object attached to the fire wall be some kind of master cylinder? As I look at the engine photo more critically it appears a solid vertical rod descends to the brake pedal area and there are two tubing lines coming out of the connector on the face of the round object. Strangest bit of apparatus I have ever seen. It cries out for further scrutiny by AONEMACH.If you compare the photos of the engine at the site Fleek calls out with the engine in the woods, they appear very much alike.The fan extension/water pump look the same. Both engines have two cooling galley covers attached with 12 bolts each. The oil filler tube is in the same location with the same two bolt attachment, as is the distributor and water goose neck attachment to the head. Looks like a very close match to me.Pete P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The motor looks the same as I had in a 1929 Reo model GA Truck I once owned. The truck also has Hydraulic Brakes. The Block Had "Nickel-Chromium" cast in big letters on the right side. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I know that Reo had a vacuum clutch option that was available on the 1932-34 Flying Clouds. It may have been available earlier. That could be what the round thing on the fire wall is. The car definitely has hydraulic brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleek Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 In the link I mentioned above, also note the front bumper and badge in the center of it look like a close match to the car in question also. I am not sure the cars are from the same year, but seem close to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AONEMACH Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Thanks for the help Im going to say it is a 27 REO and from what I can find in the ground it appears to be a 4 door sedan with luggage trunk still intact.Is there any value in what you see or is this just a pile of scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1926pack Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Could that round thing on the fire wall be a lubricator for the chassis, like the Bijur lubricator used on Packards of that era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 It is always good for parts to someone that has a similar car. In that condition I would not expect to get more than scrap price or a little better. Better to let it go to a collector for parts that could get some use out of it, than the Junk Man and have it reborn as a Toyota. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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