Smartin Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I had to grab this one...I'll scratch it off my "dream car" list Factory AC, Air Poise suspension (was converted to regular shocks), 4 note horns, power windows, brakes, steering, and some other stuff I'm sure I don't understand yet.What a project car!! I could hardly sleep last night...Those are NOS drums there...It is actually supposed to be a Silver Mist car...it has had one repaint in a slightly darker color. The underside of the trunk lid has the original paint on it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Adam, congratulations on this find!This model is most certainly one of the great 1950's era "dream machines", and I'm thrilled that you picked this one up.I look forward to your updates during the months and years ahead, as you enjoy this spectacular Buick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Thanks Brian...I just remembered - it has a Wonder Bar radio, too.I, myself, look forward to digging in and learning about these cars. I know very little about the available options, temperments, and other issues with the 58's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Adam, I'll be interested to learn whether this car retains its original Flight Pitch transmission or has been converted to the regular Dynaflow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Yes, and I neglected to ask the question. But I'm sure I will find out quickly when I actually obtain the beast.Now here's a question: I was looking through Kris Trexler's site, and noticed the underside of the trunk lids are different: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Very interesting, Adam. Trexler's trunk lid looks almost like it was an extended Roadmaster or Super trunklid. I wonder if the date of manufacture or the assembly plant dictated the difference. It would be interesting to contact other owners of the 4-door Rivieras to see what you can learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Adam, Matt Menges in Wichita ("Electra" on the buick-59 forum) has both 2-door and 4-door '58 Limiteds. I'm sure that he would be happy to check his cars when he returns from Flint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Wow! Looks like you'll be scratching spare money off your dream list too. Don't get me wrong, that car looks like it would be awesome refinished. And we've seen the quality of your work and know you can do it. But it does look like an intensive project. Good luck. Looking forward to seeing the pics as you go along.By the way, I noticed it was your birthday recently ( courtesy of the v8 board) and would like to say Happy B day! This is a fine present you bought yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Thriller Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Congratulations Adam. That looks like a very solid car, not to mention the fact of what it is model-wise.I'm looking forward to reading about your adventures with the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Gray Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Very sharp car there. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 I understood the money issue when I was told about this car. I had actually seen this particular car 2 years ago when I was looking at another one in the same building. My friend Hank Deglman was with me when I saw it, and we checked it out for a few minutes. He told me, "You're not ready for a 58, yet." He then proceeded to tell me how much his chrome and stainless bill was for his 58 Roadmaster convertible.Well, I don't plan on handing over the entire pile of chrome to the shop at once, so I won't be sweating that all at one time.I need a project like this. I need a challenge! This fits the bill nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serb Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Wagons Ho, full speed ahead.Congratulations.Stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 AdamNice find!<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now here's a question: I was looking through Kris Trexler's site, and noticed the underside of the trunk lids are different:</div></div>Possibly if the 58's are like 55's the trunk of a 2dr is longer than a 4dr.Willie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 Willie, I got confirmation that is true on the buick-59 site.Thanks!Are you at/on your way to Flint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wk's_olds Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 WOW! Those are monsterous cars! They were a foot longer than a Cadillac of the same year! I had one back in the 60's; it was silver mist, too. Now the bad news.......not that I wish to be the bearer of such, but I discovered that the '58 Limiteds were somewhat of an experimental car. The original suspensions were rubber air bags that didn't last long, and soon, the car would become a "lowboy." The automatic transmission was the Flight Pitch type which also didn't pan out. There were a couple more issues which slip my memory just now, but beware, unless those issues have been remedied befor you purchased it. I DID love the looks of it, and it had room galore inside, and it was comfy, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 Yep, the air poise suspension was replaced with coil springs. I am still unsure about the transmission, though. I'll have to wait and find out about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59 98 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Adam, you may already know this, but if not, when you look under the car at the transmission pan, if it is a perfect square, that is the Flite-Pitch. If the trans was changed in the past, sometimes they also changed the gear indicator on the dash to the Dynaflow indicator, but I've seen several where they left the Flite-Pitch indicator in and just had to use memory as to where the gears were.Flite-Pitches can be a pain, but when they work, they are great. If the LTD still has it, and it needs work, there are a couple people I know that specialize in rebuilding them, so there'll be no need to go the Dynaflow route.Sweet machine, Adam!Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Adam,You already have an excellent restored driver in your formal coupe, so taking on a long term project such as this is not so disheartening. You can always hop in the Centurion and take a break from the Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 BJM - I think that's the only way I can justify having two cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 20, 2008 Author Share Posted July 20, 2008 Picking it up today!I hope I'm not the only one who loses sleep over this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Got the car home..It is a dynaflow - not a triple turbine.The brakes work...sometimes. I had to keep one foot on the E-brake when I moved it around. It was like driving a stick Interior is absolutely rotten. I ripped the carpet out (what was left of it) and vacuumed out the rust and nut shells. It runs well, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serb Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Adam,All the best of luck in your current endeavor. Keep the progress photos coming.Stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Thriller Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Right on...again, congrats and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZondaC12 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Wow from the pictures she don't look half bad!!!! I'd sure as hell cruise around town in that with a huge smile on my face as it sits!Love the picture of it next to the centurion. Wow what a boat. I'm sorry I just love the BIG ass-end and the chrome and stainless everywhere. Gaudy? Perrrrrrhaps. Still looks good? I think so.Let us know how the A/C is when you get it working. Anyone chime in on how good '50s era A/C was? The closest example I know of first hand is circa 1970s.....a '71 Lincoln Mark III 2dr at a cruise last summer the owner was letting me check out and sit in and move the steering wheel with my LITTLE finger. The A/C in that car was dreadfully freezing LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 My vacuum weighs at least 30 lbs heavier now, from all the crud and dirt/rust that came out of the floor of the interior and trunk!! Yuck!It's fun working in the garage when it's 98* outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffreport Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Adam, glad to see the under the trunk shot. You're right, that looks a lot like the color on Hank's car. Hope you're enjoying her... Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_MrEarl Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Adam, I am beginnig to believe that size does matter to you. Congratulations and I look forward to following the restoration of it as I always have the detailing of your previouos cars. Factory air, man that is gonna be nice. She's gonna be beautiful!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Bigger is better! It seems I am going to need to invest in a cut-off wheel...and lots of replacement blades. Every nut and bolt/screw is rusted solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Ripped the seats out today...and vacuumed another 30 lbs of crap off the floors. I can actually see how much rot I have now.The front seat was as heavy as the entire front clip of a Camaro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Hey Adam, Is that a heater running across the floor under the front seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ewing Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 That would be the under seat heater tube and coils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Nice. My family used to own a 55 with the under seat heater, and my 56 does not have an under seat heater. I just assumed 55 was the last year for those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 I was stumped by the appearance of the heater line. I had never seen or heard of one prior to seeing that. That was the only thing that made sense, though.Now I REALLY need more room. This is going to be a tough job in a 2-car garage, having to share space with another beastie. I may have to figure something else out about the storage situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 This car does look like it will take quite a bit of work to cut then fabricate and install new patch panels. Wish we could be there to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 Not much to report..This is the pile of dirt and crapola that came out of the inside of the door. I have half of the dash apart, but it looks like I'll be waiting until I can pull the steering column to remove the rest of the pieces. Every door panel looks as bad as this one. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59 98 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Adam, if you need any parts, like rust free doors and good interior pieces, let me know. I just sold my 4 door Limited parts car and he is for sure parting it out.Keep us updated!Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 I would love the contact info for him. Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59 98 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Adam, sent you a PM.Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Just bringing this thread back up so I can keep it in my head. I haven't had much time to work on anything this season. Pretty frustrating...Bought a mig welder yesterday so I can start piecing this body back together. It came with an auto-darkening mask! Pretty sleek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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