Clipper47

John, When are you going to post the Brad Berry story?

Speedster...So if I do break it, what are my options. try to be patient and keep trying to work it loose. They can be rebuild but not cheap!

Saw the movie "Flags of our Fathers" ( A must see BTW!) There were at least 3 Packards and possibly more. During the bond drive in 1945 the 3 Iwo Jima flag raisers were driven around in a black 1940 18th series possibly a 180 Formal sedan with sidemounts. I am surprised no one else spotted that one! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />In another 1945 scene the men get into a formal sedan(leather top) so I'm thinking it is the same car. There is a mid 30's Senior Packard in one scene but just a glimpse as it's parked along a stret at night. They are all night scenes. Later in the movie in scene of Ira Hayes working in a farm field a family pulls up in a 22nd (48-49) Eight sedan. In a later scene a green 24th-26th series but possibly a 54 can be seen parked along a street. It is a short scene but maybe one of you 50's fans can identifiy it better. What got me was how all the cars seem to be sporting WWW tires in 1945 which isn't lkely with the tire shortages at the time.! Wonderful movie nonetheless.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never said the Kentucky wonders or any of the other accessories were useless. Only conspicuous. In reality the kentucky wonders were an attempt to keep gravel from beating the daylites out of the gas tank. The dirt roads i've driven on deposited dust ALL OVER the car. THere is NO way to keep a car clean on a dirt road especialy in very dry conditions. AND i am speaking a DIRT road NOt a well graveled road. Ther is a BIG difference. Dry or wet. </div></div> Sorry if you took my comment the wrong way. I wasn't referring to you specifically. Yes I know what you mean by DIRT roads believe me!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Ever hear of Kentucky Wonders??? That is the long full width rear mud flap often seen 50's - 70's . </div></div> I wouldn't call these "adorning" anything. They were rarely installed for looks. These were marketed as a practical accessory for staion wagons. These flaps stopped the spray from forming under the car (to a large extent), which then did not fly up behind the car and adhere to the back window blocking the view. They were later supplanted by the airfoils applied to the side and top of the tailgate. The rear wiper (now ubiquitous) was a better solution. If you ever saw one on a sedan, however, it was strictly for looks! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /></div></div> If you've never travelled on gravel roads I guess you would not appreciate a full length mudflap. My game warden trucks had full length mudflaps to prevent gravel from spraying up behind and breaking a following vehicle windshield but also to keep the dust from obscuring the view for vehicles approaching and following.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While we're on this topic, It's a pretty well known fact that the immediate post-war cars '46-'50 were frequently trashed up at the dealer before they ever went on to the lot. The dealer knew that every one of them was sold, why not sell them with 5 or 6 "factory authorized options". A lot of those cars had Unity spotlights and other gee-gaws that were in the phamphlet. </div></div> That is certainly the case with my '47 Packard Super Clipper. The dealer installed bumper over-ride bars, licence plate frame and foglights.

I torqued my '47 356" engine head nuts to 65 f/lbs. I think the book says 62-65.

Kev, Maybe try a tractor repair shop. A lot of tractors used those filters as well.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got a note from RoJo22. He went to see "Flag of Our Fathers" and in it he spotted a 56 Patrician. I have not seen the movie, but from what I have seen in the way of advertisment, I thought it was about the flag raising at Iwo Jima. they must have gone well beyond that to have a 56. </div></div> I think that it is partly about the tragic life of the flag raiser Ira Hayes who died several years after the flag raising.

Rick, Thanks for that. This might just be the item I need.

Well the springs are off and apart and I see that the separators are in pretty bad shape. I doubt I will be able to find new ones so does anyone know of a modern alternative that will do the job of keeping the springs silent when jouncing up and down.

Just out of curiousity I checked my shop manual and it states that the 22nd Series Customs (356") used Autolite and the Super Eight (327" )used Autolite or Delco. Maybe the engine in the parts car is a 327" installed as a replacement for perhaps a blown 356 or the parts from a 327 were interchanged? I will have to check the engine number again but I am almost certain that it is a 356".

My 47 Super Clipper is all Autolite but my parts car is a late 47 Custom Super and the dist., gen., starter, volt reg. is Delco. I think that the Senior 22nd cars were Delco also.

Albert, Well I got the shacle bolts off with no problem but that darn front bolt is seized on pretty good. Unfortunately all I have for heat is a small propane torch which I don't think will heat it up enough from past experience. I have to get a longer drift but failing that I may have to cut this one off with an angle grinder if I can get in close enough. Thanks for the offer of the bolts. I will probably need them so hang on to them for me please!

This is the best Packard forum as well but there are some fellows on the PAC site who are very knowledgeable about the older cars like mine that I find very helpful. I do hope that the forum gets back online soon.

Albert, The front bolt has the tapered 1" or so head. I have obviously destroyed that when the end with the nut snaped during removal attempt. Any idea who might have new ones for sale. Thanks for the tip about burning out the rubber also.

Randy, In retrospect I should have engaged my brain before engaging my fingers on the keypad. Yes I know that there are problems with the forum and that your theory why new postings are delayed makes sense so I will reserve judgement until the forum is back up and running properly. Sorry for even mentioning it. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Has anyone else tried to post a message to the "new" PAC Forum. It appears that before your post is accepted it gives a message "This topic is awaiting verification" before it is posted. It seems like unnecessary censorship and pretentious elitism to me but then I am not making the rules.I wonder how long I have to wait until the censor reviews my query about the rear springs on my '47 .I hope that it is a suitable topic. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I saw the catalogue and there was a 55 or 56 Packard Patrician going to be auctioned. Do you know if it sold?

Albert, Thanks, I have thought of burning out the rubber with a torch but the gas tank is pretty close for my taste! Well, I broke the front bolt off flush with the frame so now what? Should I cut it off the shaft with a angle grinder?

My 47 Packard is now blocked up for the winter so I'm doing some restoration to the front and rear suspension. I am having a bit of a hard time getting the shackle bolts pushed back through the spring bushings. I suspect that the bolts are pretty fixed to the rubber after 58 years. The biggest worry is the front bolt through the eye of the spring because the nut is reached by a hole in the frame. I was thinking that the best approach would be to somehow remove the rubber bushings perhaps by drilling out the rubber and then the bolt should come free. I don't want to pound on the bolt head for obvious reasons since the shackles are in good shape. Any tips appreciated. Has anyone tried using neoprene bushings?

I watched "Coal Miner's Daughter" last night. There is a rear view of green '51 200 model in a parking lot in one of the scenes.

BUT probably its the exposure of metal surfaces to the AIR -- MORE SO THAN -- the water that causes the rusting. That would be my guess also.

I leave a mixture of about 60% antifreeze and 40% water in the car during the winter since it occasionally does get down below -40 on rare occasions even with global warming. I live about 180 miles north of Duluth. I would be concerned about rust developing in the head and engine block if there was nothing in the system.

And may I ask who didn't do a good job? I was planning to send mine to Apple Hydraulics.