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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The points should be the same. I believe the Packard number is 354262. </div></div> My Packard is a Super with 356 engine.

I bought a box of 10 Autolite point sets on E-Bay for my '47 for about $30. If the points are the same I could sell you a set or two. Does anyone know offhand if the points are the same?

I think you should have no problem getting points or condenser. Ask at your neighbourhood NAPA or failing that try Kanter or Max Merritt etc. I am sure you will find what you need.

Stone guards look nice on the flat radiator years like the 5th, 6th and 7th series but not after that IMO.

I use motorcycle fork oil.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dave, You must have met the owner, he is from the Chicago area and spends summer days in Wisconsin often. He really enjoys the great cars he has acquired and country roads in Wisconsin are a great place to drive them. Stude8 </div></div> He was travelling with two other couples in a similar vintage Peerless and a Pierce. It was a thrill for me to see them travelling down the highway after we had a chat. They were surprisingly quick and quiet. The roads in central and nothern Wisconsin are ideal for such cars as the traffic is very light and the scenery spectacular.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One car is close (150 miles on the train), the other car is pretty far. Far enough that I am beginning to doubt that I will be able to go see it, as appealing as it is. Can someone comment on the reliability of the column shift, a first for 1939? What is a comfortable cruising speed without overdrive? And are overdrives available for these cars so that I could install one later, or are they just about non-existant? Someone said that for 1939, the one I want is unique to that year. --Scott </div></div> Scott, Since no one else has jumped in I will try to answer your questions based on my somewhat limited knowledge of 1939 Packards. The "Handi-shift" columnh shift can be a problem but if properly adjusted and with good bushings it works just fine. You should have no problem cruising comfortably at 55-60 m.p.h. in either car. I know others will say 70 is no problem but I like to keep my 1947 Packard under that speed unless in overdrive. The overdrive for the 1939 cars is different from the 1940 and later cars but the transmissions are the same. I suspect that the later overdrive units would fit without problem if you can find one with all the pieces.

I met a couple from the Chicago area on tour with a Model 30 about 3 years ago in Superior Wis. I wonder if it was one of these cars? Thanks for the pix!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Assuming they are the same body, condition and price you would be insane not to buy the 180. 1. The 180 is a full forty horsepower greater than the 120. 2. The 180 is accepted as a full CCCA classic. 3. When you go to resell it you will have a better chance of recouping your money as the 180 cars are a definite premium over the 120 cars. regards, A.J. </div></div> A.J. The other car is a 1939 Super Eight with the 130HP 319CID engine not a 1940 with a 356 160HP engine. I agree with the other two comments however.

I agree. If the upholstery or platic needs redoing on a Super Eight it will be very expensive. Depends on how much you want the prestige of owning a CCCA Classic. The Super Eight is a CCCA Classic and the 120 is not. I would likely opt for the Super Eight but that's just my preference.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Thanks, Dave I'll try to remember this time. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> But Probably not. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> </div></div> Speedster, Believe me I don't keep it all in my head! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The green Convertible is a 12 Cylinder (1708) model on a 139" wheelbase not a Super Eight (1703-1705)and the white sedan looks like a 6 (1700). The 12 was made in very low numbers in 1939 and retained the body lines of the 1938 with wood framing etc. while the Super Eight body and chassis was changed to the dimensions and all steel body construction of the 120. The 120 and Super Eight both used a 127" wheel base chassis. The 6 used a 122" The engine of the 1937-39 Super Eight was the 319CID engine. The last Super Eight to use the 385" engine was 1936.

As mentioned the 1939 120 and Super Eights are both wonderful cars and are very similar and shared most body and chassis components The differences were mainly in trim level and as mentioned, the engine . I think that for availability and expense of engine parts the 120 would be the easier to find since the more modern 120 engine 282 CID(120HP) was used in Packards from 1935 to 1947 and many more were produced whereas the Super Eights venerable 320CID (130HP) was discontinued when the 356 CID engine was introduced in 1940. Performance was about the same. Other than that there is not really much to chose between the two models in 1939 as both were excellent cars. Good luck.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">tbirdman You seem to have purchased a car of quality. Installing a stone guard would be a vulgar thing to do. THE GREAT GRAND WIZARD 1929 Willoughby Sedan-Limousine 20, Rue Trayton Paris, France </div></div> Pete, I thought you lived in Bruxelles? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Belgie............ <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> ??? LOL ??? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Which 'Lingual' is That ??? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> </div></div> Flemish, which is a dialect of Dutch. Belgium is a bi lingual country using both French and Flemish names. Begie is the Flemish word for Belgium.

He lives in Bruxelles, Belgium, which in English is Brussels. And that is very much in Europe. Then would the address not properly be Bruxelles, Belgique or Belgie? (Belgium is a bilingual country)

Or heaven forbid.....a remote part of Arizona??? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Myron, I doubt the fuel pump would be putting out too much pressure. Usually as they age they don't put out enough. You can check this very easily with a cheap vacuum/fuel pressure guage available at almost any car parts store. The pressure should be about 4lbs. if I am not mistaken. They come with instructions so you should be able to figure it out. If someone was messing inside the carb they might have adjusted the float level incorrectly. I can send you the float level specs if you you want and you can make a simple guage ( a drill bit is usually all you need) that should get it adjusted close enough to work. Good luck <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dave, you're British on the bottom too. Didn't you ever notice the Union Jack they used to brand you on the arse when you were born? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I pronounce it Dur em also and I'm Western Pa German. (I can't see my brand anymore <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />) </div></div> Randy, And what brand did they use on your butt? The Stars and Stripes or the German Imperial Eagle? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> (Der am) is the way I pronounce it. I guess I'm a Viking at heart. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> </div></div> The Derham in Pennsyvania is spelled different than Durham England so the origin is probably German in origin but I would still pronounce it without the "H". I guess I'm British at heart <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why do (most) Packard people pronounce "Derham" as "Durham" (as in Raleigh-Durham NC) rather than Der-ham(emphasis on the R in <span style="font-weight: bold">DER</span> ? It's an old Pennsylvania German name. </div></div> Long before its use in Pennsylvania or even North Carolina it was and is the name of a city, cathedral and more recently county in northwestern England. There it is pronounced "der am" with a silent H which is the way I would pronounce the name as well. I didn't know about the German origins to the name. I always assumed it was an old British place name with origins from the Anglo-Saxon/ Viking era.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's time to get over this and die of something else. </div></div> Amen.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> But, didn't Some '54s have the 327 engine? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> </div></div> The 327 engine was used in several models including the Clipper Deluxe, the Clipper Super and the Packard Cavalier. The 288 was still offered in the 1954 Clipper Special. The various Packard 400 models had the 359.My source is Dr. Marvin's Packard Identification Guide, Volume one, Second Edition Copyright 1990

Yes and please post some photos as well.

I have spare complete air filter that has no dents and is in very good condition except it needs paint. If you want it I am sure we could negotiate a fair price. Shipping might be expensive as it is quite bulky and I live in Canada. Let me know in a personal massage if interested. I could send you some pix.