John_Mereness

Their is a lot to be said for base model life in the period, but the poverty hubcaps on the base car with no extra trim matched to boring tan is just TOO PLAIN JANE.

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Pierce drawing has a tiller and no armrests on the front seat (while car in photo has a steering wheel and armrests).

I agree as to general public - I tend to see terms related to restored, part restored, or original. I would not call this car really anything other than "maintained" - ie there is really not a great descriptor for it.

I have plenty of the same for this and that over time.

I do believe the car Mark Hyman sold was this one: I think he gave me a page link and I apparently did not save such or download any photos - timing was just about right though for someone to restore in short order and get out to Amelia island. I needed you around at the time to say open the wallet more and just go for it - you know how I like a good Club Sedan.

Also from the Creative Workshop Facebook page - as a sidnote, I recall watching their television program regarding the early Kissel they restored and Pebble Beach; and how laborious they were at documenting with a particular discussion as to their installing buttons across the seat back - well, not many surviving unrestored cars, but plenty of very early restored cars and you just have to get a feel for if they took the time or not when car was done to get it correct - AKA why original period photographs are so important to find. As a sidenote - I lean toward no buttons on the seat back - just deep pleats.

Photo from mid 70's: The relative that had the 1932 RR PI also had this 1904 Knox Truck - it was I believe a NY Sanitation vehicle and they bought it from Dave Dominion when working on the RR - I also believe it had a tiller now that you mention it.

Somewhere I have seen photos of the hinges in design - the hinge has a dovetail integrated into it - neat design and probably worked just fine for a couple of years.

All comments said, my guess is the price is about right (2K to 3K too high though) for a really decent car and you probably would be hard pressed to find one better (thus why the 2K to 3K is probably justifiable to some degree), but it also is a really homely version in a horrible tan and very few trim options (equally horrid base model hubcaps). My guess is more mainstream rarity is applicable plus it takes two to tango. It does have about $750 of Porsche 356 headrests in it.

1912 Stearns Knight ?

NICE - a really good look for your car !!!

In our brown discussion - this 31 Franklin 151 won its AACA Senior 1969-ish and was one of the first AACA Senior cars I saw (owned by a fellow by the name of Ed Wyle when he lived in Dayton, OH and was restored by a legendary fellow by the name of Pop Rice) - and I took note of it sd it was the first car I saw with a painted undercarriage to match fenders (now re-done in black), though had whitewalls that really did little for it - I saw it recently (afyer blackwalls installed and other changes) and surprised by how nice the brown choice was.

1960's photo

This is a glass plate negative or photo that needs found and properly enlarged.

I think theirs may be different

Photo: San Francisco History Center, SF Public Library - DON LEE

Bob Roberts’ store on 1352 Ivar Avenue serviced and sold used Duesenbergs after the Los Angeles factory branch closed