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The 34 x 4.5 will fit on many mid sized to large cars from early on to the mid 20's. (with a 25" rim)

Hello terry, Yes, I second what John said....thanks for posting a link to some interesting historical automobile license plate trivia. Monday, I will try to visit with the Pa. State Hisotical group. I am hopeful that they may have the means to look up the Locomobile License plate number. Al

The thoughts that have been shared here are greatly appreciated. I had no thought that the car was in Pa. However, the scenery does look eastern to me, so Pa. fits! Terry, if the type of plate shown is from 1910 to 1915, was a design change for or after 1916? At least if I could, in some form, be able to search the records archives, I know the license plate number to look for in each year. The note on the back of the one picture does suggest that the pictures were likely from 1913 or 1914. Your thought further suggests a confirmation to that statement. So, If I could do a search, I would start with 1913 then go to 1914 looking for license plate number 4207. I would guess that the type of automobile and owner would be associated with the plate number? What are the thoughts on that? I may also attempt to use some high quality computer enhanced magnification to see if a year is shown under the keystone emblem. John or others who are familiar with Pa., to the left of the plate numbers (4207) in the middle is the Keystone emblem, what should I be looking for under the Keystone, the year? What should be shown on top of the Keystone, City or county? Another interesting aspect of this license plate is the fact that Aunt Nellie is likely the wife of the owner. That could be a form of confirmation if some sleuthing can take place to trace the origin of the plate number. Does Pa. have a State historical archive group? Thanks for the help, this is a fun way to shift gears for a bit away from bruised knuckles and grease under the fingernails. Al

This request for help from those of your who have a good working handle on early automobile license plates and know how to search state license information/records. This story starts with my long term restoration of a 1909 Locomobile. (That is another long long story!) A few weeks ago, I noticed a couple of pictures for sale on EBAY with the subject automobile being a 1911 -1912 Locomobile Model L Toy tonneau. (My 1909 Locomobile is very similar but being a 1909 does not have the front doors). I decided to purchase those pictures to keep in my :Locomobile photo file. On the back of one of the pictures is found a couple of comments, probably from a family member who is familiar with the car, the time frame and the lady in the car. The hand written note suggests that the pictures were taken in 1913 or 1914 with Aunt Nellie sitting in the passenger seat. The time frame is probably quite accurate as the car, which should have carbide lights, appears to have been converted to have electric headlamps. These headlights sure look like the early Gray and Davis electrics that came out in that same time frame. The last bit of good information is the one picture shows very clearly a State License plate with the number of 4207. I can't quite make out the state of origin. So..... let me ask, can any of the Sherlock Holmes types here evaluate the pictures and potentially identify the State this Locomobile was licensed in and then maybe even scout out the records to determine who the car was registered to. I hope I am not dreaming, but it would be nice to have a bit of correct history to keep with these two pictures. Help me if you can. Al PS: the third photograph is a factory picture of 1909 Locomobile toy tonneau

Nice sketch

Note: With the photographs enlarged, I notice that the headlamps appear to have been replaced with an early electric and look very similar to Gray and Davis. Probably to improve the lighting while driving a speed after dark? These cars are not true speed cars but they are very capable cars back in the day and also in our current times. It also looks like the right front fender has had a little kiss with a fence or something as it is not riding in the correct position. Can any Sherlock Holmes, among us, determine the state this car was licensed in and potentially who this Locomobile was licensed to back in the day? Maybe more history is available to make these photographs even more interesting! Al

1911 or 1912 Locomobile Model L Toy Tonneau #2

!911 or 1912 Locomobile Model L Toy Tonneau (after a couple of years use by Aunt Nellie and family) #1

1909 Locomobile Model L Toy Tonneau, from the factory

While exploring our favorite shopping area, EBAY, I noticed two original photographs that depict a very similar Locomobile to what I am restoring. My car is a 1909 Locomobile Model L which does not have front doors. These new purchased pictures are of a 1911 or 1912 Model Locomobile Modle L which has the front doors. This are nice old original pictures with writing that suggest the lady in the pictures is likely Aunt Nellie and from 1913 or 1914. Does anyone have an Aunt Nellie who originally had a 1911 or 1912 Locomobile Baby Tonneau. I will repost a picture of a 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, as it left the factory, and then follow with the two pictures I just purchased. Al

Nice mock up of you design.... Al

Joe, The heating/cooling of an old car can almost be like watching a dog chase it's own tail. I also suspect that we are much more interested in controlling the heating/cooling of our antique automobiles than our great-grand-dads did back in the day. Al

Hello Joe, I am also sure that flow is good but too much flow will not overwhelm the radiator but move the water so fast that the water/coolant does not have time, in the radiator, to shed the heat through the fins of the radiator. I have seen several original "fixes" on old cars that had continual heating issues where an orifice plate was installed to "slow the flow" through the radiator thus eliminating the heating issue. (No flow is not good either!) I agree with your choice of material and impeller design. Al

I am curious about the maximum pressure that can be developed in an exhaust pressure supplied fuel delivery system. Would someone who has built this type system make a comment. Is it possible to get 2 or 3 PSI or not. Al

Joe, I might have missed something, but I am curious, what type aluminum are you using for the water pump? What configuration will you impeller be? You certainly have a good start on the water pump. Al

Hello Mike, It appears that you have a good and solid modern engineered update for your stock riveted flywheel connection. You should, by all accounts, end up with a solid connection that should not flex or move. Have you contacted anyone, in the Harley Davidson world, to get some information on the V twin connecting rods used. You should be able to get the dimensions you require to see if a retrofit is possible and if the eye to eye measurement will work depending upon your chosen CR and pistons available, (even if you have to go with custom pistons). The Indian enthusiasts might also be a second good source for information on pistons and rods. The fork and blade style rods may allow you to have a bit more room for the bolt up connection that is currently an issue for you. Al

Ben, Thanks for the ideas on the Mason "C". Al

hmmmm, get out and get under. That is a fun tune for sure. Al

Hello Ron, I wish I had 1/2 the information and experience that you have and I would be reasonably well learned on steam engineering. Al

Here is another steam question that relates to the Mason "C" steam engine. What would be the proper sized boiler to work with the "C" engine? This question is suggesting that the engine will be in a typical era light runabout or surrey. Al

Hello Ron or any other steam smart soul, What is the best and most suitable sized boiler to work with a Model "C" Mason engine. I suppose that the Mason "C" has been used as a replacement for the original Locomobile steam engine. Al

Good Morning Ron, I hope you have a good time at the show. Post a picture or two of your Locomobile and back drop of the car show. It will be nice to see what is going on in your neck of the woods. Do you plumb your fuel system with 1/4" copper? Al

I bet more that a thrill...it probably scared the internals out of the driver! Old news is rather interesting. You never know what you find. Our area is very rural with the county seat being 40 miles away. Our area had rail service but the county seat did not. Consequently, a business minded fellow created a "Bus" service to run people from the rail station (in my area) the 40 miles to the County seat. This was like 1909-1915. One of his fleet was a Thomas Flyer. Our local News Paper archive tells a story of one of the trips with dignitaries, down the complete dirt roads in the back seat of the Thomas Flyer. You can imagine what that trip would have been like in the heat of a summer day. I would sure like to find the bones of that particular car!

Nice pictures Mike. Looking things over, that you have posted, I am thinking that you may want to go with a solid good grade and snug fit rivet as has been mentioned before. Put the squeeze to it cold so it firmly fits/expands into the ID of the the hole and will not shrink after cooling as the potential is with a hot rivet. I am concerned that using a bolt will not stop the potential movement unless you do a press fit bolt. Maybe lightly apply heat to exp[and the holes and freeze your chosen bolts so you would end up with a very tight, shrink fit to lock the flywheel in place. Here we go again....just my 2 cents.... Al

More information, Refer to EBAY item number 172963064030 for one of these glass inline fuel filters. This one has hose barbs on each end but these fittings could be changed out that would allow a different fitting type to minimize any potential for leaking after install. For a little over 7 dollars, this piece is affordable. Al