Lozierman

Looks like about a 1929 Essex.

Wow! I had heard from others that Fred was ill, but I didn't realize things were this bad. Yes, Fred was great guy and wonderful leader for our group for many years. He and Jan were always great to be around and he always had a smile on his face and truly liked other people. He and I had a couple of things in common. First our appreciation of Chandlers, but we also worked for the US Postal Service. Fred had recently retired, but I have been retired almost 5 years now. I am very sorry to learn of his passing. I cannot imagine the sadness his family must be experiencing right now. I will miss him.

Yes, it is a 1915 Lozier Type 82 touring. It is owned by a doctor in Plattsburgh NY where the Lozier automobile was first built. The company moved to Detroit in 1912 to compete with the other big car makers of the day. That is where this Lozier was probably built. Actually, there is another 1915 Lozier Type 82 also. It is in a museum in Missippi. It was restored as a Meadowbrook racer by a man who lived in Delaware back in the late 1950s. I keep a roster of known Loziers. I also have a Lozier a 1913 Model 77 touring.

I agree with Chris, it does look like it might be a S-D, but without the radiator features mentioned, I'm not positive. It also looks like it might be a Speedwell, or perhaps a Matheson but again lacking enough clear details, these are only a guesses. Hopefully, others will step up with their ideas and help identify this fine automobile. It is a great looking car and would be a nice one to have today.

Where are you located? Do you have any pictures?

This looks like a 1909 Oldsmobile Model D touring, but the Model D had rounded front fenders rather than the flat tops seen here. Could it be a 1908 Model M or MR? It definitely has the Olds radiator and hubcap showing. It looks new which probably explains the group photo.

Sir, I knew Dean Spencer and visited him often as this Stutz was being built. It did start "life" as a sedan. Dean bought it from a person living in Tacoma WA many years before he decided it should have the body it has on it now. As I remember it was originally owned by a person who owned a Tacoma newspaper. Dean had a fellow from either NZ or Australia living with him for a while who actually created this body. This was done in the mid 70s. There was someone who also built a similar bodied Stutz and had it at one of the Harrah's swap meets in the late 70s. Dean never tried to fool anyone regarding this car. He just wanted a cool looking Stutz. He got one! Dean also had a few steam cars...Stanleys, a Mobil and Whites. Oh, he also happened to have three Dobles at one time. A coupe, touring and a roadster. I spent many days visiting and watching him work on cars and even took him out searching for parts, or recovering things I had found I thought he was interested in such as a Stanley boiler and front axle. I also sold him a 1912 Cartercar roadster I had purchased. He went with me when I went to buy it and he bought me lunch on the way home. During lunch we talked about the car in detail, and after he paid for lunch he made me an offer for the Catercar and I sold it! I had some great times with Dean and wish he was still around now.

I had one like yours except mine was paired with a Chelsea clock on top of it. It was off a 1910 Lozier Briarcliff touring. I found the front seats hanging in a garage in an old part of Seattle back in 1968. The old guy who had it parted out his Lozier in 1918 when the exhaust manifold broke. He kept the entire Lozier body and all the brass accessories including the speedo setup. I looked for more than 35 years for a Lozier T head engine and transmission but never found the parts I needed. I ended up trading my hoard of early Lozier stuff for a complete, almost 100% original 1913 Lozier in 2000. Your speedo was meant for a high end quality brass era car and NOT for a Model T Ford!

Harvey, I am trying to add a photo of my 1938 Cadillac Town Car to this message. Hopefully, the info I found on how to do it as well as message from Paul Tariello on how to add a photo will allow me to do this. Mike Turner Seattle WA

Harvey, Please send me a PM to my e-mail address, Lozierman@Comcast.net. I also have a 1938 Cadillac V-16 limosine. Mine is a Towncar. I can't figure out how to attach a picture or I would post it here. Mike Turner Seattle WA

Steve, I think it is a 1906 or 1907 Stevens-Duryea Model U. It is the big 6. Check out page 1400 of the "Standard Catalog of American Cars 1805-1972. Nice car!

I'm pretty sure this is a cowl loight for a Studebaker, probably about 1916-20. Mike Turner

I have been searching the web for results of the Otis Chandler auction conducted by the Gooding Company, but haven't found anything. The auction occured this past weekend. Does anyone know where to find this information? I would like to find a list of the cars/motorcycles and the prices realized. Thanks.

Oops, I forgot to attach the photo. When I tried to add it, I discovered it is too large to load...just over the size limit. Sorry. If you would send me you e-mail address, I'll send it to you directly. Lozierman@Comcast.net

Steve, I too was at hershey this year and took the attached picture of you, your wife and teh Mora as you were driving to get your "official" photo taken. You have a great car. My wife and I have enjoyed you and your wife dressed up with your Maxwell at previous Hershey car shows, but this car is great too, as original as it is.

Hey fellow Chandler owners, in the latest issue of the Horseless Carriage Gazette there is a very good article on the early Chandler Automobile Company. It talks about when the Chandler began and provides some info on the various Chandlers produced.

What day and time and of course, location will the Chandler enthusiasts gather at Hershey this year? My wife and I will be there!

Looks very similar to one that was an accessory to many cars. I have even seen one installed on a Model A Ford. It actually mounted on the steering column just under the steering wheel. It even had a small light bulb so you could see the engine tempature at night. Does this one have the sending unit too? It is inserted into one of the engine head bolts to send the temp to the gauge.

Since no one has made a post to the Chandler section in over two weeks, I will. I want to wish all Chandler owners and those interested in Chandler automobiles a very Merry Christmas and a healthy New Year. In a few days it will be 2006, and that means only two years until the next Chandler get together in Buffalo New York in 2008. I plan on attending with a 1914 Chandler. I need to get a lot done by then though. Season's Greetings! Mike and Kandie Turner

I need Kissel parts for a 1911 Kissel. I have a 30HP engine and transmission, but need virtually everything else. What parts are available out there? I am willing to pay for leads resulting in purchase of the parts needed. My plan is to create a semi-racer type of car. Any chassis parts such as a frame, both axles, steering and radiator are my primary wants. Thanks. Mike Turner, Lozierman@Comcast.net, Seattle WA, USA, 206-246-2895

I have a 1918 Buick 4 cylinder engine. I say its a 1918 because I looked up the serial number many years ago. If you think this might work for you let me know what other info you need from me. It is currently in inside storage where it has sat for more than 20 years. As I remember it is complete with accessories. Is it worth $475 to you? Mike Turner Seattle WA

Steve, and others interested; The "Browning" Limited was purchased by Otis Chandler. He also purchased the 1909 Lozier Briarcliff they owned, at the same auction.

Many years ago I purchased a large 6 cylinder T head engine from Hemmings. I bought it with the thought of using it to put together a 1910 Lozier Briarcliff. I had almost all the parts for the Lozier except for a T head engine. I knew it wasn't a Lozier motor, but thought it would work until I could locate the correct motor. One day a collector came to see my mystery engine and corectly identified it as an Oldsmobile Limited motor. It was not exactly like the others he had seen, (he had two already). Mine was serial number one, and had many pieces which had been nickle plated, unlike the others he had or had seen. He told me he had the rest of the parts to complete the 7th surviving Limited. I sold him the motor. I'm still looking for a 4 or 6 cylinder T head engine for the Lozier project! The Limited had come from a barn in Maine, and had been stored there since the early 1930's. It was in great shape, complete with magneto and carb. Probably would have started as is with some gas, but I never tried. Incidently, it was about 1 inch too wide the the Lozier frame. It would have been a great engine to use, but that would have hurt the Lozier frame and also kept an original Limited from being completed. It is being restored, or perhaps has been completed by now. The motor went from Maine to Washington State and then to Michigan. Hopefully, when its back on the road it will travel as many miles as a complete car!

I have 2 front and 2 rear wheels that came from a 1913 White. Also included are 5 rims, marked "Firestone". All items are in excellent condition. With minor touch up paint, they are ready to use. Since there are no hubs, you could use with your hubs on any large pre 1920 automobile. I will attempt to include a photo with this ad. Price is $3000 OBO. Buyer to pay shipping and crating charges. Contact me via e-mail if you have any questions. Mike Turner Seattle WA

I think this automobile is a 1907 Pope-Toledo, Type XII touring, 35/40hp with a 104" wb. However, it might be a 7 passenger, which would make it a Type XV, with a 115" wb and 50 hp motor. I see a chain drive rear axle which lead me to this make and model. It looks exactly like the picture on page 1235 of Standard Catalog of American Cars 1905-1942. One item that I believe is incorrect is the sidelamp is on upside down! Looks to me the chimney is on the bottom with the kerosene pot on top. These drawings were done by artists who often took some "libertys" while creating their pictures. It is a lovely car and would be a wonderful car to own today.