Lozierman

Yes I do. It was sold to a man in CA who drove it and broke the crankshaft. It was sold to another CA man wo had a new crankshaft made and got it running again. It is a Model 72 T-head, and can be found on the cover of a HCCA magazine a few years back. I don't mean to be elusive about who owns the Loziers I am speaking about, but without their permission, I want to be thoughtful in maintaining their privacy.

No. Dr. Hunsberger's Lozier is the green one shown elsewhere on this topic.

It looks even better now. It is residing in the Atlanta GA area. The owner is extremely satisfied with the performance of this Lozier. I actually had the pleasure of driving this car back in 1969 when Dr. Hunsberger still owned it. Quite the car.

The blue and white Lozier is part of the collection located in Hickory Corners. The black one is now painted blue and is the same Lozier pictured below it. This 1914 Lozier is now in a collection in Russia. The yellow Lozier shown is a 1915 Model 82, made into a Meadowbrook from a chassis found in Delaware many years ago. It is now located in the Tupelo museum in Mississippi.

Yes, this is the 1913 Model 72 Lakewood Torpedo, T-head, owned by Charley Parker and now owned by his family. I personally visited Charley one time and he provided me the history of the car and where he found it. Interesting it came from Turner Valley Alberta, and my last name is Turner, but no relation. It did go to CA a few years ago, for motor work. It has been done and is now back with the family.

The Bothwell Lozier was sold in 1972 to the Harrah collection. It was displayed for several years and then sold during one of their several liquidation sales. The current owner is the Nethercutt collection. They restored it and put a Lakewood body on it. It also now sports wire wheels. As I understand, the "limo" body is still in their storage. Ask me about any other Loziers, I can probably let you know their history and current status. There are about 40 Loziers known, and only two or three have changed hands and I have lost track of the current owners. Does anyone know of and Loziers? I have maintained a list of owners for more than 40 years and besides a complete 1913 Model 77 Montclair, I also have a lot of parts of many years, hoping to someday put another one together.

Yes, Lozier had the Briarcliff model. The blue and white Lozier Briarcliff shown here is a 1911. It is owned by Fred Hoch. Corky Coker had his model J, 1910 Meadow Brook at the Atlanta meet. Next to Fred's Lozier is the 1914 Lozier (maroon) owned by Todd Lozier. We had our 1913 Lozier Fairmont touring at this Lozier gathering too, but it's not shown here. The speedster in the photo is not a Lozier.

Yes, the photo is of a 1913 Lozier Fairmont touring. I am very familiar with this car as I am the current owner of it! I am certain this photo was taken in or around Virginia City, Montana. At the time this photo was taken it was owned by Charles Bovey. At one time he was a state senator and he and his wife were responsible for developing the tourist city known as Virginia City. This Lozier was found on a farm they purchased in White Sulphur Springs and was a part of their antique automobile collection they also had in Virginia City. I am attaching a photo of our Lozier where it was displayed at a Concours at the Lemay Collection in Tacoma, WA. I live in a suburb of Seattle. I have owned this Lozier since 2000. It is the only 1913 Model 77 left. It is original except it was repainted many years ago. The 1913 had "flat fenders" while the 1914s had "crowned" fenders.

How much are you asking for this starter? Thanks for your reply.

Just found this posting. The Lozier shown is actually a Model 84. It was the least expensive Lozier built starting in 1914. It has a four cylinder engine. There is one left and another being restored from a collection of parts.

The Automobile Quarterly, Volume four, 1969, has great articles on this race. There are other publications that have also weighted in on this race too. I am biased, but I believe the Lozier driven by Ralph Mulford actually won the race. It can't just be a coincidence the Marmon was declared the winner, and it was built in Indianapolis, the same city the race was held! In all reality it probably wouldn't have mattered for the future of the Lozier Automobile Company as most of the entrants, including Marmon, are not producing cars today. The Lozier was NOT a purpose built racer like most of the other entrants were, including the Marmon. I don't think Marmon produced any six cylinder Marmons. Lozier built both four and six cylinder models. Looking forward to reading others comments.

Stoddard Dayton

Got it. Keiser simply clicked on Steve Kirton's name and it mentioned he had recently purchased a 1930 Model A Ford tudor. Kudos to Keiser for providing Steve some information. Keiser is a rare breed of old car collector, he researches and finds info by using his computer and years of knowledge about old cars.

Yes, This was my 1959 Corvette FI. Wish I still had it. Mike Turner Seattle WA

In 1975 I bought a FI 1959 Corvette that had been restored. It was my daily driver until the fall of 1978. After I sold it I was watching a movie that had a Corvette in the opening scenes. It was a side shot and when the car turned and the front license plate showed I realized it was the same Corvette I had sold. It was red with white coves. The movie was called, "Scorchy", with Connie Stevens as the lead actor. No one had told me it was a movie car when I bought, and of course I didn't tell the buyer when I sold it. The movie was shot here in Seattle. I do have a 1938 Cadillac V-16 Town Car that was originally owned by Hollywood movie producer, Darryl Zannick. I understand he used to have his chauffeur drive him and the star of each movie to the premier of each film opening night. I wonder who sat next to him for each film?

Packard

My father in law owned one. He bought it as a used car and it was the daily driver for many years. I started dating his daughter in 1976 and it was just sitting in the driveway then. My daily driver was a 1959 FI Corvette. He mentioned many times how fast the Rebel was when it was new. While we never raced them he did give me the Rebel after I married his daughter. I trailered it home and it sat for a couple of years. It was 100% original, but had been repainted the original colors. It did run and I moved it a couple of times. I knew how rare it was and even bought a piece of sales literature on it. My brother in law asked if he could have it, and I agreed. I live in Seattle and he lived in Auburn. We decided to trailer it to his house. He started it and while driving it onto the trailer, somehow the transmission hit something on the trailer/loading ramp. It lurched forward and before he could react, it ran off the front of the trailer and hit the back of my tow truck, a 1972 Cheyenne Super, and slightly dented the rear of my truck, but also breaking the Rebel's grill. We checked for a replacement grill through ads in Hemmings and found a few. I shared the info with my BIL, but he never bought a replacement grill. He had the Rebel for a few years and finally sold it to someone in the area. That would have been around 1981 or so. I have never seen another around here. I have see a few on the internet at car shows. Like many other cars I have owned over the years, that is one I should have kept.

I am confused, or perhaps it is the "poster", as the last Mercury dime was minted in 1945. Did he mean a '35?

I think the gas pedal is actually a pedal for an exhaust cut-out. Might work though.

Scroll down below Chalmers and there you find the Chandler listing. There is a Chandler club and often on the classified section there are a few Chandlers for sale. I have a 1914 Model 15 Chandler touring. Are you aware of the Lozier Chandler connection? I also have a 1913 Lozier Model 77 touring. Chandler began when a group of about 7 senior Lozier executives left Lozier to form the Chandler Motor Company. In fact the early Chandler literature brags about the Lozier executives by naming them and stating their former positions in the Lozier Company. The first Chandlers look like a Lozier of the period. Probably would have been lawsuits if the present laws relating to copyright laws were in place back then. I have a lot of literature for both Lozier and Chandler. There is a man here in the Seattle area that has around 20 various years Chandlers. What year Chandler are you interested in obtaining?

Any photos available. I'm sure forum members can id the "unknown".

Notice the pendant on the car? Jackson! Check info on a 1911 Jackson touring. Fenders and rear frame horns match. Since we are guessing.

Loziers used T head motors through 1913, Model 72. They did use an L head in a less expensive model in 1909-10, the Model J. In late 1913 they introduced the L head again in the model 77.

Actually, Dean Spencer owned three Dobles back in the 1970's. He had a coupe, a roadster and a touring.

I see the Matheson engine in the background. When will it be done and running? Your work is amazing in quality and detail.