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Terry Bond

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  1. Wow, this keeps getting better...and better...and........ I need to dig through some photos and post a few more goodies to keep up with you guys! Terry
  2. Agree with what's already been said. From what I see in the photos already posted, what was once done to the car has now suffered from the ravages of time and from obviously being shuffled around during the past several years. Much of the work I can see that's already been done would need to be re-done. Perhaps mechanical parts like engine internals, rear end, transmission, steering/suspension, were done and might not need much more than reassembly and adjustment, but the rest of it in my estimation needs a lot more than just reassembly. There is a good chance most of the work already done is not up to today's standards and is really just "fixup" rather than authentic restoration. Assembled and complete, it might be $5-6K worth of car, but as is, the $2500 seems like a realistic ball-park figure as a project. Of course all that could change depending on the history of the car. If it's one of those documented historic race or hill-climb vehicles what Wayne mentioned, things could change. We're all anxious and very curious to see more photos either here or wherever else you post it. I'm sure additional info and opinions are waiting. Terry
  3. Steve-you could make this some kind of contest and raise some bucks. "...nuthin would be finer than to be in Carolina in the spring time...." Terry
  4. That's a great sign!. Here is one from my collection. I removed it from the wall of an old garage in the 1980s when we lived in Scotland. I like the colors on it. It's double sided flange mounted, and both sides are pretty nice. Terry
  5. IMHO good choice - sell the Chevy and buy a good Model A - and use left-over money to add on to your garage. Have fun- and join AACA and a local region too for the many touring opportunities. Lots of shows too and since it looks like you've got a variety of interests (still got the Pontiac?) AACA is the best choice to play. Terry
  6. Nope, I suspect you paid the right price for AUTOLITE plugs. I think you learned there are differences between vendors. I don't know who you bought them from but again, if they were advertised as Champions, that's a big problem. It sounds like from their email or letter to you they were pretty clear about not selling you the champion 3X and substituting the Autolites. Sounds like your Model A experience is limited, so my recommendation is to join a club and make use of the Model A discussion forums before you spend any significant money. You'll find out there are vendors you probably want to avoid and others that will give great service. If this amounts to just a misunderstanding, then don't let it spoil your fun. The Autolite plugs will probably work just fine in the Model A so use them and wait to find a good set of Champion 3X if that's what you really want. Terry
  7. If those plugs were advertised as Champion 3X it was either a SERIOUS error, or willful deception on the part of the vendor. Those are Autolite plugs. Here are photos of a reproduction Champion 3X plg and four boxes for a set of plugs currently listed on ebay for sale. Terry
  8. You bought the reproduction Champion 3X spark plugs, not Autolite. Champion makes the 3X and it is a Champion designation. Autolite plugs are a usable substitute I suspect, but are not an authentic looking plug. If you need to just run the car, the Autolites should work, but if you are looking for something reasonably authentic looking, the 3X is the way to go. That is, unless you are looking for show-car perfect, then you'd need to find a set of originals that are either NOS or restored. There are differences between the originals and the reproductions that an "expert" (or a Model A Judge) can spot. I've not heard of problems with the reproduction 3X plugs, but then I don't currently own a Model A. I'm currently running a set of reproduction Champion X plugs (1/2" pipe thread) with the brass "hat" and have not experienced any problems with those. Those reproduction Champion plugs are getting pretty expensive so let your fingers do the walking and ebay will be your friend. You might also want to check with other Model A parts vendors as they might have some older stock on hand that don't have the problems. The pre-war swap meet at Luray Va, or later in the fall, the Hershey swap meet should turn up plenty of plugs for you to choose from. Terry
  9. We've had a lot of varied reactions to our cars over the years. One I continue to laugh over is the man who was showing his wife how our Model T operated. He told her the crank handle out front was so you could "wind it up." Another time we had one of our MGs at a show when someone came up and asked "what does MG stand for?" I thought I'd have some fun and responded - "it stands for GM - General Motors, spelled backwards." With a really puzzled look on his face I further added - "think about it - the drive on the opposite side of the road in Britain." He then said "ahh, now I got it" and walked away pondering how things must have really looked "backwards" to oncoming traffic. We still laugh about that! Terry
  10. Bougie is the correct spelling-and they are still referred to as that. It translates literally to "candle." Not sure they ever really sold for that much but in many cases a day's pay was what it would take to buy them. Fascinating history, and if we ever get the AACA Annual Convention rescheduled I hope to actually present a seminar on the history of the spark plug. Terry
  11. It's a print, and yes, I have a number of other similar items that used the stock images. I've not seen this image used on any other items though. Does anyone have other examples of it used commercially? Terry
  12. Railroad. Google Adlake railroad lamp and you'll get a ton of info. Terry
  13. Photos of your project would be welcome. Terry
  14. Just curious - are those official Hershey wooden nickels or did you have them printed? Terry
  15. Nice! I absolutely love these great wall-hangers. I just don't have enough wall space and end up rotating things around periodically so I can enjoy all of it. So many great early prints are out there it's hard to decide which are my absolute favorites. I really like the Montaut prints, and there are so many other scenes of early motoring, racing, etc. etc. I think that one of my best finds though was this "yard-long." They were popular prints, and were a yard long (thus the name). Usually the prints depicted pretty ladies in various scenes. I sorted through a bunch of them at an outdoor antique market years ago that were leaning up against a fence, and found this fabulous print of a pretty lady driving an early car. I bought it for $25. I had it re-framed using the original old wavy glass using a dark green velvet mat. I always thought I'd seen the image someplace before, and years later, a good friend locally acquired a 1909 International High Wheel automobile. Among the various literature he got with the car was this catalog - and there was my lady! I like her even better knowing what it is. Terry
  16. I know this almost deserves a separate topic to see what turns up. I'd call it "early race souvenirs." Not long ago I did a seminar at the AACA Annual Convention on the earliest automobile races - the city-to-city races held in France at the turn of the century and into the early 1900s. They were wildly popular events and really gave the automobile a tremendous boost, although they were quite controversial, especially the Paris-Madrid event in 1903, which became known as "The race to death." These were souvenirs of those events. There were no purpose built race tracks at the time, and spectators simply lined the roadways for up-close looks at the action as cars thundered past (sometimes even plowing into the spectators). Imagine those scenes from some of Europe's bicycle races today with crowds so close to the passing vehicles you could slap the drivers on their backs as they roared by! Today we have trucks and trailers loaded down with T-shirts, flags, stickers, and ball-caps that follow the racing circuits from track to track. Back at the turn of the century souvenir vendors would set up a table in one of the towns along the way and sold more generic automobile related items as momentos of the occasion. Lots of pins, buttons, pennants, and prints of speeding race cars were sold. These little porcelain "dishes" were very popular. Some were salt, pepper and mustard condiment sets, and others were small candy-dishes or trinket boxes. They come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and some were painted to specifically commemorate some of the larger events. These are three from my collection. Would love to see pictures of any others that survived to compare notes and see what differences might exist. They were made from delicate porcelain so I don't believe they lasted long. Enjoy- Terry
  17. Sorta reminds me of the good old days at Hershey. People used to scrounge through all the trash barrels and pull out the stuff vendors didn't want to take home. Next year you'd see it on the tables again for sale. I remember one year when the guy next to us tossed a whole box of NOS dog-bone radiator caps. Sold the heck out of them a year later. No doubt here will be a few opportunists looking for freebies to resell, but heck, why not. At least it increases the chances it goes to a good home (eventually). Terry
  18. What makes it a 31 Ford roadster??? It belongs on a hot rod forum. Terry
  19. Models and some dioramas have been posted under the Memorabilia category. Start a thread there and see what happens. Terry
  20. One of our local car club members had one and said it leaded so bad he might as well have not bothered even closing the doors. Did you see that dumb question on the listing that someone asked? "Does the 14 mile car run and drive?" I nearly spilled my Scotch! Terry
  21. Walt, if it's the bronze version, don't do anything except to dust it off. Absolutely you don't want to try and polish it. Those years of aging could be wiped away in a moment. It's like an old coin-leave it as it and let it show its age. Terry
  22. That's a great item Walt. There are several versions of this piece that I've seen. It was designed by noted German sculptor Wilhelm Fruick. The signature is often misinterpreted as being "Frick" or even "Zwick." I have attached a close-up of the signature that appears on one that I've kept photos of for reference. You can see how it is easily mistakenly identified. There are number of varieties of them, allegedly loosely patterned after an image of a chain-drive Mercedes being driven in an early Gordon Bennett Cup race, however what it actually depicts is uncertain. These were produced in silver, pewter, and bronze. Some of the pewter versions were also sliver plated. There are recent copies of this done in resin that often appear on evil-bay. Yours has a wonderful provenance, and as you know, I think the back-story is always a fantastic part of the item itself. Congrats on a great item. Your collection of memorabilia is fantastic. I've got a lot of catching up to do! Thanks for posting this- Terry
  23. Wow, there certainly have been some big $numbers tossed out there! Trophies are difficult to judge. Here's my thoughts on them - I'd suggest there are a few things to consider when evaluating them: Significance, artistic merit and quality. All of these must be taken into consideration when evaluating a trophy. At the top of the heap are trophies for important historic events that were awarded to specific historic vehicles. Many of those trophies are literally works of art rather than mere engraved cups. They will have been specifically designed for that event and will incorporate things like spoke wheels with wings on them, gas headlamps, or even cars themselves. The Founders week trophy pictured is a great example. Trophies for specific popular and important vehicles like the Mercer posted above will also be in demand for owners of the cars. I have a good friend who not long ago acquired a trophy awarded to an EMF like the car in his collection. It was not terribly expensive and came from a well-known dealer of quality automobilia. Anytime you get an actual vehicle embossed or engraved onto the trophy though it does increase the value considerably. Quality of production is an important factor. For example, the trophy I posted a photo of is nice, but only the wording is hand-engraved. The motoring/racing scenes wrapped all around the cup are a silver applique, artfully applied so it looks like engraving rather than actual engraving. There are other similar trophies existing and one resides in the club trophy case of the Antique Automobile Club of America at their new Headquarters in Hershey PA. There are many other fantastic early trophies displayed there as well. I'm sure that if the Vanderbilt cup won by Old Number 16 ever came up for auction it would set records. Not only is Vanderbilt Cup material hotly collected, Locomobile racing material is among the more desirable, and that car is perhaps the most significant early racer still around in this country, other than perhaps the Thomas Flyer from the NY-Paris event in 1908. That Vanderbilt victory was also the first victory for an American made car in the Vanderbilt races. There is however a vast difference between that kind of trophy and something from a more obscure event won by a driver not commonly known. Connecting the trophy to one of the greats in motoring/racing history is another bonus. The trophy in question was won by Joe Tracy, who was a well known driver in early Vanderbilt Cup and Gordon Bennett Cup races. He drove Locomobiles in the early Vanderbilt cup events, however his career was short - he retired in 1906. The trophy itself is relatively plain, even though it is styled like many other similar trophies of the era. It's pretty, and the engraving is impressive, so as a collectors item, yes, it's valuable, but I'd suggest its value would be around $1200 based on its connection to Tracy. Now if you can determine that the original winning car exists, and the owner has to have it, perhaps more. It's important to look at comparable items and actual sales results. I've not undertaken a through search, I'm only scratching my brain to recall what I'd seen previously with early trophies. Past auction results are going to be the best guide for determining value, but even those need to be considered in view of the many intangibles that might impact the sales price. As an example of what can happen with trophies, it's not been that long ago that a group of trophies once won by the famed lady driver Joan Cuneo came up for auction. (I did a seminar on Joan and her driving career at the AACA Annual Convention in Philadelphia a couple of years ago). The trophies had been inherited by her family and were offered at auction. https://www.oldcarsweekly.com/news/race-pioneer-joan-newton-cuneos-trophies-sold There was a lot of media coverage about these trophies. Beautifully engraved, significant history, and thrilling well-documented stories about her career behind the wheel. The best of them was the silver 1908 Glidden Tour plaque that even had her car depicted on it. However-expectations were quite high for their value, in fact the opening minimum bid acceptable on the Glidden Tour plaque was $20,000. The trophies failed to reach their minimum reserves and were withdrawn. Not long ago I posted a question here on the forum about them, wondering if they remained with the family or had subsequently been sold privately, but there was no response to those questions. As collector's items, trophies are fantastic, but most are worth less than you'd imagine. Just my $10-worth. Happy collecting and remember - three makes a collection. So, go find two more and put them on display in your own personal motoring memorabilia museum. Terry
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