B Jake Moran

This year is an unusual year to see but I have seen and been in a lot of nice 1950-1954 Pontiac 8 cylinder automatic cars. That flathead isn’t a bad motor. I did work for a Pontiac dealer who owned a 1950 4 door with that motor and we rebuilt it after 22,500 miles.

Interior appears wrong too with vinyl seats.

Seriously?

Easy pass. I guess if you are a salt and pepper haired millionaire then $16,500 is no issue. Those guys you see buying over priced restomods off BJ auctions.

$16,500 to start a project?

Not by 1964 - for buckets and console. The 1962 Wildcat was a mid year attempt by Buick to provide a personal luxury sporty car for those eagerly awaiting the 1963 Riviera, which was revolutionary. All 1962 Wildcats, which I believe was not even a seperate series, and thus they are somewhat hard to track and fairly easy to clone if you really wanted to - were bucket seat console affairs. But in 1963 the Wildcat merely became the mid series in the Buick lineup and nothing special really. They were available in 1963 with bench seats, 4 doors, 2 doors and convertibles replacing the Invicta name. Dave Holls famously said "what is an Invicta?, nobody knew so we created the Wildcat." You could certainly still get the bucket seat console set up in any Wildcat in 1963-64. I have seen more than one 4 door hardtop Wildcat with bucket seats and console - as an option. The 1964 Wildcat in this ad is a base model more or less. The rear quarter damage means it's a $2,000 car at best. Dreaming to get $5,000 plus. No one (that I know) is going to beat those rear fenders out, repaint it for $10,000 plus and other restoration needed, to have $30,000 into a $12,000 car.

The seller communicated to me through FB that there IS a title.... Coming. OK, as one who has purchased more than one vehicle with the "promise" of a title coming, I can tell you NOT to take car without a title if that is supposed to be part of the deal. I bought a Mercedes Benz sight unseen, had it shipped here, title was not provided after several attempts. I had to get a bonded Iowa title which took 4 months. The seller had his money, his motivation to follow through quickly went away. You pay this guy with the Oldsmobile $8500 and you'll never see the title.

I would not either unless that is disclosed ahead of time BUT wouldn’t that be a discussion before removing it?

Pete- while the engineering behind these was arguably better than GM overall - the Imperial was a minefield of gremlins for the accessories. I know, I was the mechanic for a WP Chrysler club member with a 64 4 door. Surely, the Lincoln’s and to some extent the Cadillacs were no better but while the drivetrains were quite nice, the power accessories had not quite made it to 1964.

I prefer LeBarons over Crown Coupes and it would be a game time decision even with a convertible from 64-66. Prefer front treatment of 65-66. But I’m not sure about that color. I like black with black or black-blue interior. Something like that.

Per the seller not true. He still has the car. Did the guy back out?

Something I hear from my wife all the time.

Agreed on spelling Moron the wrong way. Really made my great Uncle Bugs upset.

Smoking hot deal. Will last “not long”. Even though this era is not as hotly collected anymore at higher prices, anytime you price a project car like this at $4,000 someone will buy it.

The original Continental was styled for that exposed tire and there was an indentation in the trunk area for the set up. Apples and oranges to a silly 1950s era contraption that extended OUT from the originally styled vehicle.

They added a video presentation.

And asks $29,000. Owned it this long - what he has done is called maintenance and should not add up to a more expensive sale price.

I asked him for more photos.

My 2 cents. I was a factory trained Mazda, Subaru master technician. ASE Master with L1 certification. Worked from 1998 to 2005. Got out due to an expensive hip replacement. Therefore I cut my teeth in the transition period from OBD 1 to 2. To say that I was less of a technician is a bit of an insult. The modern era Auto with computers, on board diagnostics and shrinking the body down around the engine and components is apples and oranges to the usual older collector car. R&R became common because the components are not rebuildable in a way that saves the customer money. To wit, the 1998 to 2002 Mazda 626 with the 4 cylinder automatic had a bastardized Ford auto because Ford owned Mazda at the time. Automatic transmissions have always been the domain of specialty shops that rebuild the transmission. Am I supposed to pull the transmission, tear it down on my 6 x 5 dealership provided work bench then reinstall it 2 weeks later? Charging the customer 16 hours to rebuild it plus 6 hours to remove and reinstall? I used to R&R 2 a week in about a day each. Taking a sensor - remove and replace in an hour or less. One hour of diagnosis. Or pull it off, crack the plastic shell and “rewire” or rebuild it? It would probably run worse after that! Brakes? Just put new OEM rotors on. I can’t tell you how many times I turned rotors, they warped within 15,000 more miles. FWD cars especially are heat monsters on front disc brakes. And modern drivers want to go go go until they stop. My wife hates my driving because I brake coast brake. Allowing my brakes to cool down a smidge. Bottom line is this is a generational “thing”. R&R saves customers money and focuses a modern technician on proper diagnosis.

Most of us think that. You are not alone. I don’t understand owners not removing them. Are there really people out there that like this look?

You would have to call the seller.

Nothing wrong with a series 62 sedan.

I would tend to agree BUT look at that interior! The body is straight, and there is some rust. How about $1,000? I doubt the seller would be agreeable to $1,000 but that's lower than most project cars these days.

Correct, thanks for pointing that out. Not too far gone, but they averaged 45,000 of these built from 1971 to 1979 ish. No need to settle.

Way over priced due to high mileage but likely a perfectly nice car. The AC won't work, I'll betcha, and it would drive me nuts to have that ratty air filter extension on there and ask $9500.