jcmiller

Hi, I need about 250 pounds of parts transported from the Springfield, MO area to Portland, OR. Most of the weight is a transmission. Please PM me if you might be able to help for a reasonable fee. There is no rush on the shipment. Thanks, Jeff

Thanks Bob. Very useful info as usual. Attached is a picture of what I think is a single barrel Carter.

The manual for 1941-48 Chryslers says that the single throat carb was used on "a few 8-cylinder C39 and C40 engines" and that otherwise a dual-throat carb was used on 8s. Would the carb choice have depended on what transmission was installed? If not, why would some of the 8s have had the single and others the double? Thx.

Some different options are described here: http://forums.aaca.org/f145/plans-cradle-hold-straight-8-a-380364.html

Not that I know of, I think business coupe back glass is the same on all 1942-48 Chryslers, Dodges, and Desotos. Maybe 1941 too.

Nice! Love the color. BTW, I put mine on Craigslist a couple weeks ago to test the waters. I had a couple of bites. The most serious inquiry was from overseas, but he lost interest when I told him I thought the best way to restore it would be to use a donor car.

I sent you a PM about the transmission/fluid drive.

Here is a thread on a latch that should be very similar if you want to tackle it yourself: http://p15-d24.com/topic/32334-droopy-door-handle/?hl=%2Bdoor+%2Bhandle+%2Bsags#entry323254

I'm just bringing this to the top again in case anyone has some insights on these questions. I appreciate the post about the factory engine painting process, but still need some help with the other questions. Thx.

I sent an email to the National Archives advising them of the mistake. I can't change the title of this post, however.

http://research.archives.gov/description/6598356

I’m going to try to summarize all this for 1946-48 vehicles. Fluid drive was offered on Dodge, DeSoto, and Chrysler, but not Plymouth. Dodge coupled the fluid drive with 3-speed manual transmission,* while DeSoto and Chrysler coupled fluid drive with the hydraulic M-5 transmission. A 1946-48 New Yorker would only have come with fluid drive and the M-5, and most other 1946-48 Chryslers and DeSotos had that combination as well. Regarding six cylinder cars vs. eight cylinder cars, the M-5 transmission is the same, but the fluid drive coupling is different, with the eight cylinder version using a bigger pressure plate (10”) and possibly different internal vanes. The six-cylinder version will bolt to a straight eight engine and function properly, but may not last as long because of the smaller (9-1/4”) clutch.** A bell housing from a straight eight fluid drive setup must be used, however, because the bell housing from a six will not bolt to a straight eight. * Starting in 1949, Dodge offered fluid drive with semi-automatic transmission (M-5?) on its larger cars. ** 1950-53 Dodge B-series trucks with fluid drive, used the eight-cylinder version of the fluid drive coupling/clutch, even though they were equipped with six-cylinder engines. Thanks to everyone who weighed in on this topic. Please correct me if I misstated anything. Jeff

OK, the presence of that 3 speed manual with fluid drive on the Dodge had me wondering whether I even needed the M5 transmission. My car is a '46 New Yorker and it has no engine or transmission, but it says fluid drive on the steering wheel. I have been assuming all along that it had the hydraulic transmission with fluid drive and that fluid drive was only used with that transmission. Now I know that fluid drive was also used with manual transmissions, and it appears from your last message that Chrysler only offered fluid drive with the hydraulic transmission. Can you confirm that a 46 New Yorker with fluid drive would only have come with the hydraulic M5 transmission?

My manual shows 3.54 for C38 with hydraulically operated transmission and 3.9 for standard transmission.

I don't know if this will help, but the part numbers for the electric wiper arms are the same for Dodge, Desoto, Chrysler from 1941-1948. Plymouth is different. The reference I have does not show the part number for the motor. Updated: Hollander's shows that Dodge, Desoto, Chrysler from 1941-48 are the same. Plymouth looks different. Another parts manual I have is consistent with that. The part number is 974 467.

Thanks guys. I'm starting to get the picture, FD doesn't necessarily mean M5 transmission. Sorry to be so dense about this. I lack knowledge in all areas, but the transmission and fluid drive are a particular mystery. Was the M5 only on Chryslers? Jack - Thanks for the post, I'll shoot you an email.

Can you tell from this picture if this is a fluid drive/M5 transmission? It is advertised as such, but it looks different from the pictures that Country Traveler posted in the thread about the weight of these things.

Thanks, this is very helpful.

By this do you mean that it will bolt on and work (perhaps with less durability/performance) or do you mean it can work with a lot of mods? I've been looking at other threads on this, including http://forums.aaca.org/f145/chrysler-straight-eight-questions-346078.html and I had the impression that the six FD wouldn't easily connect to the straight 8. I hope that is wrong though because it would be great news of the six FD bolts to the straight 8. Thx again.

Thank you!!

Thx; is that true for the fluid drive/clutch components as well?

And I know someone who needs a '46 T&C transmission ...

I have a few general questions about painting straight eights. Generally speaking, I know the block was silver and the accessories black, but was there any difference between how 1946 and 1950 engines were painted? Should the accessories be flat, moderate, or glossy black? Is it important to use high temperature paint on the accessories? Were engines painted silver after they were assembled or before? In other words, were the edges of the gaskets also painted? Is there a particular shade of silver or product that closely matches the original look? Thanks!

Here you go.

http://forums.aaca.org/f119/1952-chrysler-new-yorker-convertible-386516.html Not washed, but more pictures including engine bay and interior.