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  1. Yes, it's a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Probably early to mid 1950s, but I can't tell for sure. They were made in New Orleans. For parts and info, check out It's worth saving!
  2. There is a restored Sears Motorcycle at the National Motorcycle Museum in Anamosa, Iowa. I saw it just last week. I didn't note all of the details, but as I recall it had a DeLuxe engine on it. I took some photos, so I'll have to circle back and post a couple of those.
  3. The term "ground up" just cracks me up. When I was a little guy I thought is was GRIND UP and all I could imagine was something like a giant meat grinder full of car parts that would, well,...grind them up before the restoration could start. Even as a kid I could never understand why anyone would want to do that. I still remember when I realized it meant restoration from the ground up. The owner (nicely) corrected me after I asked him if he had done a grind up restoration. I can laugh about it now, but was awfully embarassed at the time.
  4. That was a nice engine, though I think the numbers are actually 710 ASLB. I know it's sold, but I'm curious how you found it in the first place. I'm abolutely sure hat particular engine really did come off a Doodle Bug, so just wondering.
  5. A picture is worth 1000 words...can you post one here or a link to somewhere that you have it hosted?
  6. I really liked the idea of a camera system, but the more I looked and the more I researched, the more I realized that camera systems are easy to defeat. First, unless you have it actively monitored, you won't know about crimes until after the fact. Even then, you'll have to wade through potentially hours of footage (unless you have a record-on-motion-detection system) to find what you're looking for. Second, picture quality just isn't that good. Even with the most expensive commercial systems (especially in low light situations) it can be difficult, if not impossible, to make out vehicle make, license plate, or the face of an individual. Third, a camera setup isn't very stealthy. If a thief knows its there, all they have to do is wear clothing that completely covers them up and not park their vehicle in the camera's field of view. The best thing to do is, unfortunately, to keep all of your locked up and out of sight inside of buildings with the doors closed and locked. Yes, it kind of makes me feel like a prisoner on my own property, but I've never had a break in or had anything stolen from my property by religiously practicing that. I also highly recommend fencing as my garage/shop is completely enclosed within a 10' high fence that goes comptely around my property, including a fully 10' solid gate that goes across my driveway and locks. It makes it all that much more difficult to get to the garage in the first place. That's not really practical for large properties, but it's a very effective tool. If nobody sees it, they don't know it's there. If they don't know it's there, it makes it hard for them to want it. It's almost impossible to protect property that's just sitting out in the open...I wish you the best and would be curious to hear about your final selection.
  7. Allow me to offer an alternative perspective: I've had an ebay account and have been an active user since 1999. That wasn't the very beginning, but it was still in the "early days" on Ebay. In 13 years, it has changed significantly. I beleive a positive experience with ebay depends significantly on if one is a buyer or a seller. For sellers, ebay is a true double edged sword. They have the name recognition and audience that draws millions, but they've also taken a very "buyer centric" approach over the last several years through restructuring fees, feedback, shipping, and payment methods which seems to have some sellers upset. I can understand that. I've sold exactly 3 things on ebay in 13 years, but purchased nearly 1000 items. I'm not a powerseller or what one would call a "powerbuyer," nonetheless... As a shopper / buyer, ebay has been a very positive experience for me and no other site has come close to having such a significant impact on my hobby and collecting life. I have found many, many, many rare, unique, and one-of-a-kind items from all over the world that I would have never seen in a newspaper classified, at flea market in who-knows-where, or at a neighborhood garage sale in some other state. In many cases the sellers don't know what they have or aren't knowledgable or motivated enough to bother with targeted ads on this forum, in Hemmings, etc., etc. Sure, I've been burned by a couple of sellers and have had shippers trash some items, but I've always been backed by Ebay and/or Paypal and they've made things right. However, I like that I can pay electronically via paypal. I like that the listings now all have photos. I like that ebay offers both the buy-it-now and auction formats. I like the selection and variety that comes with ebay being a huge, international site. I can buy parts for things like my Italian scooters from Italy, pay headache free in Euros via paypal, and have ebay standing behind me the whole time. I like the fact that as a buyer I can browse, bid, and buy items at no cost to me (aside from possible winning bids and shipping). Also, as a buyer, I also like feeling like there is recourse if a transaction goes bad...that's almost impossible if sending a check or money order to a stranger that happens to be selling a part I want. With ebay, I have two levels of protection. First, paypal itself (a payment method sellers are required to accept these days) provides protection for buyers, and second (and I think a very important detail that most people never consider)...I ALWAYS pay via credit card. Then if something goes really wrong, I can dispute charges with my credit card company. I've experimented the alternatives a bit. They mostly fall into the camp of having no oversight; being full of flakes, scammers, and items of questionable origin ("hot"); having no customer service or buyer protection; having very little site traffic. What is really needed more than an all new for sale site is a really, really, really good search platform that could be tailored, per individual user specs, to search ebay, craigslist, aaca, hamb, etc., etc. to complie relevant results. Something better than google and better than sitemash (now banned from showing craigslist). I see that as the way to go...a new site for searching that is able to piggy back on the resources that already exist and that does not get into the whole business of selling. Those that decided to stick with ebay could do that, those that wanted to post on AACA could do on and so on. Ideally this site to search would be free, but it would cost someone, somewhere, some real money, so perhaps this could remain viable with a modest membership fee or through the use of on-site advertising. When thinking about Ebay, one should also not forget that Ebay is a publically traded company acting in the interest of its shareholders (ie to make as much money for them as possible). One way to make changes would be to become a shareholder (I am not) and get yourself some voting rights. Also consider that ebay owns a significant percentage of craigslist in an effort to control competition and potential alternative sites.
  8. Anything new? The last post on the topic was September, shortly after the 25th annual Doodle Bug Reunion in Webster City, Iowa. For those interested, the Doodle Bug Club of America is working on a website at The dates for the 2012 Doodle Bug Reunion are September 13-15, 2012 at the Hamilton County Fairgrounds in Webster City.
  9. I find this extrememly interesting... I'm pretty shocked that with 29 years of Cushman scooter production that not one was spotted on the show field. Heck, the Cushman Eagle alone was made for 15 or 16 years. There are TONS of them out there. As a sidebar... Where there any machines entered into Class 5F this year at Hershey? The results/awards list does not show anything for 5F, but that does not specifically mean that none were entered in the class.
  10. Good to know "for sure." If anyone knows, it would be Don. I did find a couple of non-factory photos in my collection with the mono body carb and, as I mentioned earlier, my model A came to me with that carb on it, so it must have been fairly common to swap these out. I'm not sure if it was performance or what.
  11. There were two types of mechanical governor setups. The one you described with the long screw and the knurled knob on the top is not the right one. You need the one that has a little lever with several holes in it that is attached to the carb. It attaches by wire to another similar rod thatnis, in turn, hooked by spring to the actual governor assembly. The mechanical governor is built into the crankcase and is driven by a small gear off of the cam. This is difficult to explain, but would probably make sense if you had the diagram from the Briggs manual.
  12. I'm really starting to think I'm wrong about the carb. I went over all of my photos and literature tonight and everything shows Supers with the elbowed carb. I even have some copies of photos of the Supers going down the assembly line that clearly show them. However, I have seen Doodle Bugs running those carbs. In fact, my early production model A came my way with the same carb you have, so go figure. It's possible they worked fine or were later (mid 1950s?) replacements since I know for sure it was the wrong carb for my A. The N series Briggs engines were built from 1940-1954, so its very reasonable to assume that over 14 years there was more than one carb that worked. All of that said, you might want to go back to the elbowed carb. The hardware you have works, the air cleaner fits, the choke rod fits, etc. Just put the throttle wheel on it and it should be ok. I'll see what I can find for you on the mechanical governor setup. I'm sure I've got something. EDIT: I don't have any decent photos or diagrams (electronically) of how this goes together. It's not coveted in the scooter manual, but the Briggs Operating and Maintenance Manual for the NP explains it and shows diagrams over several pages. This is also probably the only way to determine what, if any, parts you are missing. Do you have that manual? Also, the flexible extension piece on the exhaust should be about 5" and is welded directly to the muffler that you have.
  13. Your carb is right, but I'm with you on your concerns: I don't understand the nylon choke lever (have seen those) and I've experience the same issue with the air cleaner bolt. I don't have a Super of my own at the moment, or I'd go check it to compare notes with you. I'll check out some of the photos I have and see if I can find anything interesting. The exhaust you have on it is correct, you just need to add that extension piece. However, 14" seems too long. I'll have to check mine tonight and see what it is. Yes, it is basically Romex type electrical conduit, but is the smoother version, not the one with the rounded rings or "ribs" on it. It just helps direct the exhaust out the back of the bike rather than blowing it straight under the seat and between the side panels. Good luck on the rest of it and the paint. It sounds like you're really close to done.
  14. One other thing I thought of... If you're re-doing the engine ID tag, your model type is 306715 (for the Super).
  15. The price tag on the Briggs engine (restored) was $1500, I think. The Clinton was higher, I believe $2,000. They were not sold as far as I know. In part, I think, because of this: There were two distinct groups of people there...the riders and the restoration/preservation crowd. The restoration& preservation guys tended not to ride their machines, while the riders (obviously) were riding. Thing is, just about everyone there had what they wanted and needed so there didn't seem to be many bikes or parts trading hands. The riders were almost all on modified machines with modern engines and clutches (torque convertors). However, most of those folks remarked that they had their restored machines at home and brought the modded machine along so they could ride. I actually really enjoyed seeing the unrestored original machines as much as anything. ANYWAY, about your carb... There were two versions (surprise!). The one in your photos is a later carb and is correct for a Super. I call it a 'one piece,' as there is no separate "elbow" connecting the carb to the air cleaner as there is on the early carbs. If I've learned one thing about these machines, it is that there was an amazing amount of subtle variation that occured in the 2 1/2 years these were in production. They were just not consistent, so there are multiple ways to put together a "correct" Doodle Bug, especially when comparing an early model A to a late bike like the model E Super. Your work on the engine looks good. You just need the flexible extension piece for that muffler, and you'll be good to go. Oh, and if you want to get detailed, the oil filler cap is painted blue and the drain is painted yellow.
  16. I understand the distance issue. My home is a good 950 something miles from Webster City, but to be completely candid, my reason for attending this year was two fold. First, I was picking up a scooter that Don Jackson had been working on for me. This was a much better arrangement for me than driving from TX to Oregon or having the scooter crated and shipped. Second, I had a wedding in the area (within 30 miles of Webster City) that I needed to attend with my wife. Air travel to the area is expensive because there is no good way to get there without changing planes and taking a puddle jumper. Closest major airports are Minneapolis and Omaha, both about 200 miles away. You can fly into Des Moines or Waterloo but you'll still have to rent a car for the last 75-80 miles. Thursday was pretty light in terms of numbers. I was there pretty early on though, and they weren't completely setup yet. Maybe 15 people around and 5-6 scooters. Friday was much more active. There were probably 100 or so people around when I was there (mid-day). Mostly guys 60+, but handful of wives and few younger folks were along. The guys were in and out all day looking at the bikes, talking, and riding around the fairgrounds. There were also some formal organized rides through town with escort vehicles (I did not go on any of them). I hate to be too critical of it, but I would describe the event was sort of a free-for-all with no real rules or schedule. The swap meet portion was very small. There were maybe 5-6 people actually there selling and trading. Don Jackson and Jim Kilau were there with reproduction parts and decals. Another person had more random bits and pieces, another couple were selling engine parts, and another had two complete engines for Briggs and one Clinton. I bought a couple of small items...that's it. That said, I enjoyed the event. I met some interesting people and always pick up little bits and pieces of interesting information about the scooter. There were probably 65 or so different scooters around at the peak...maybe a few more. It had real small town charm. I loved it. Would an event like that be worth 30 hours driving or the headaches that come with flying in? That's a tough one.
  17. The Doodle Bug Reunion was last weekend (Sept. 15-17) in Webster City, Iowa. Did anyone here attend? I was there on Thursday and Friday.
  18. With all due respect, I feel it necessary to point out that one already exists... Vespa Club of America. Visit for all of the details.
  19. The piece circled in the photo should not be there. I'm not sure if you left it and painted over it or not, but it isn't original though it probably isn't hurting anything. You wouldn't believe some of the crazy things I've seen welded all over these scooters!
  20. I saw that one... It was in Maryland, right? I'm not sure that the engine is correct on that. It looks like a later replacement modified to work with the kick start base. Can you confirm engine model # ??? Nonetheless, it's not too bad. Lots of original stuff there.
  21. This one is definitely a Super. It just has the wrong kill switch on it, which is not uncommon. If you really get to looking closely, 99% of the "restored" Doodle Bugs have something wrong with them or not factory correct. Engine shroud should be black, as has been mentioned. Still a nice machine and those details are easily fixed.
  22. Sorry folks...didn't realize there was so much posting going on in this thread without me. I thought I had it setup to email me when there was new activity...maybe not. Anyway about the tires... There were two different General Jumbo Jr. Tires used on the original Doodle Bugs. The "fat" tire is supposed to be on the front and the narrow one goes on the back. So, your Coker tires aren't wrong, they're just a copy of the rear tire. Good luck with the rest of the project!
  23. Yes, Cessna Flag Red is the right color...checked with the painter. Because the paint world is has changed so much, most guys have been forced to go from lacquer to acrylic enamel used with hardener to urethane paint. We'll probably end up being forced into water based! Nonetheless, Cessna Flag Red has long been the color of choice. Where did you discover that it was a Cessna color? Very, very few people ever go to the trouble to find out, instead opting for some shade of "red." Let me look through my things and the photos I've got to see what sort of assistance I can offer regarding the requests in the previous post about possible missing parts, tensioner, etc.
  24. You guys are going to make me cry. I don't want to hijack your thread and I'm sure many people here have Indianapolis Motor Speedway stories, but here goes anyway... While not originally from Indianapolis, it was the first place I lived on my own, where I had my first "real" job, where my wife and I rented our first place, etc. It's been a year since I left Indianapolis for Texas, and I miss it badly. With new job committments, I missed the race last year and will again this year. I went to EVERYTHING (except Brickyard 400) that was done at the Speedway and used to arrange my work schedule so that I could spend a minimum of a half-day at the Speedway EVERY DAY during the month of May. I saw races in Indy Car, Formula 1, and Moto GP. I saw tire testing, engine testing, qualification, practice for everything from Indycars to Ferrari Challenge cars and motorcycles. I had garage passes and pit badges, etc., etc. I've worn shoes out walking around that place. I have been to the Speedway museum (Hall of Fame) many, many, many times. Sometimes I'd just ride my Vespa over and sit in the infield parking lot just for the heck of it. I was really looking forward to all of the new, special things they were planning to do in conjunction with the 100th anniversary, and this was one of the events I wanted to go to almost more than anything. I guess I'll just have to enjoy the photos.
  25. Belt and chain factory specs: Belt is 33" long v-type B section belt. Chain is 1/2" pitch, 3/16" wide, and factory length was 52 links. These specs are good for both the earlier fluid drive Doodle Bug scooters (A, B, and early C) and the later scooters with v-plex/flex-i-matic/centrifugal clutches since the later clutches were a direct bolt on replacement for the problematic fluid drive units. I'm doing what I can (little by little) to get good, accurate information online. So far this thread has been the best place to do it...this pops up on Google and has, all things considered, received strong response. Also, a reminder to all that I'm happy to answer questions and do still keep tabs on this thread. Post here or send a private message with anything you might like to know.