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Does not look that bad. Late 20's early 30's. I don't think it is one of the " big " brands, more like a Kleiber, Indiana or a Selden for example. Lots of small makes in those days, it might take a bit of detective work.

Probably Auburn. No lug nut holes because they are held to the hubs by the big center nut on these cars. Similar to British Sports Cars of the 1950's and 60's.

Now that's Motoring ! Interesting rear fenders. Normaly you would only see short running boards and swept forward rear fenders on a Roadster or Runabout.

However in Marine practice, ships with I.C. power are refered to as Motor Vessels. The alternative to this would be a Steam Ship. No one answer is right in all cases. Google ship names, most of them are the M.V. whatever. Pre 1960's many were the S.S. Whatever { Steam Ship }.

In some cases, not necessiarly Franklin, the leaves would be forced appart by wedges in order to better flush out the old grit / lubricant residue, and let the new lubricant get to more of the friction area.

Rear drums are 14 1/2 inch diameter. Seems like an odd size. Seems to indicate Essex.

Sometimes different series cars from the same make and year used what at a glance are the same wheels . The higher series cars often had more power, a longer wheelbase , and more weight. Wider wheels and bigger tires on the bigger cars.

I don't think it is a Buick. But 1910 seems very close. Good quality , mid HP car. Quite a few posibilities.

It looks like the early version of the Firestone truck rim. Both side rings { inner and outer } are removable. I am not sure when they stopped making this style but by 1932 Firestone advised replacing them with the type where the inner ring and the main band was one piece. The hub , drum and felloe are not something I recognize. Unusual,square spoke cups on the felloe.

Roadsters are in reasonable demand. And EMF is a car that is reasonably well known in brass car circles. I would guess it's a $2000.00 - $2500.00 body. Any cheaper than that and some rodder might grab it for a " T bucket " build. Way too good a body for that to be its fate. I have the front 1/2 of a cast aluminium Marmon body . I would want around that figure if I was going to sell it, and people have been looking for a chassis for it for decades. An EMF has to be easier to piece together.

I agree, Triumph TR 3 or perhaps early TR4 . That small number just under the indicator needle { barely visable in your first photo, ending in 09 from what I can make out } is the I.D. Try a google search. The stamp printed number on the back is a production date as far as I know.

The Island is nice, but the Ferry system and schedule will have you tearing your hair out. And far from cheap. I have a pass but a taxible bennifit , even at that the cost really adds up over the years. And everything you buy has a ferry cost built into it.

Sorry, but no. Freeing up some of the currently outrageous value of this place is part of the equation. The house market out here is nuts, even for a near tear down like my current place.

This ended up in my pile at a auction a couple of weeks ago. Rear end is most likely Hudson and I am speculating these body parts came from the same car. Roll down 1/4 windows can't be that common. Or a rear door that uses a piano hinge. Body parts are free for the taking in Langley B.C. Canada, just East of Vancouver B.C. I am keeping the rear end.

I know Craig, I just throw that phrase in for comic relief. Compared to Edmonton I am living in Canada's tropics. But I did spend my early years in Winterpeg. And a year in Huston B.C. { by Smithers } Those memories never fade. Lately I have been considering immigrating to El Berta. Prices of everything is getting pretty extreme West of the Rockies. Not so sure about the Edmonton area, more like Red Deer. Time will tell.

Thanks Peter. I was actually thinking more about the cars shown early on in todays photo set. I expect very limited production compared to the trucks. That's amazing that the 1903 truck chassis survives.

Amazing photo's Peter ! Are any of those early Saurer automobiles known to survive ?

I am going to hazard a guess that it is from the larger , Model 40. That's based on the size of the top tank { surface where the emblem mounts }. Compare to Dave's photo of one of the smaller models. The larger area of your shell becomes apparent.

I agree about Packard roadster. 1924 seems likely although I think 1925 is almost identical. Great cars. Unfortunately this one seems to have spent at least one decade too many outdoors. Still , if it was a reasonable distance { it isn't } I would be happy to give it a home.

In a way that sounds more like current F1. Indy is a pretty unique event. How much faster are they today than say 15 years ago ? Quite a bit safer today , but I suspect really not all that much faster. Like I mentioned before , it's all the modern tech that makes modern racing uninteresting to me. Sometime in the mid 1980's it became more about budgets and electronics than a man and a machine.

Driver safety is of course very important. But over the last 40 years the cars have , in stages , evolved from quite dangerous to quite safe. Were the cars a generation { engineering, not human } or two ago significantly less safe ? I expect each newer design became a bit safer than the previous. We have now arrived at a point where the cars are pretty markedly different than even 10 years ago . What's next , air bags ? I personally have lost much of my interest in modern racing cars. When it takes a team of 3 or 4 tech. people just to start the engine I think things have gone too far.

Here in Canada the average was closer to $1000.00. Supply and demand. A good friend went whole hog and paid $1200.00 for a 65 ,GT fastback ,4 speed. A code. He still owns it all these years later. Upgraded to a full K code powertrain about 25 years ago. A very rusty K coupe gave up its mechanicals. The coupe became a race car with much higher than K spec parts. We don't waste anything up here in the frozen North.

My 66 was already a bit scruffy when I bought it in 1975, but $650.00 for a running , driving V8 Fastback was very cheap even back in the day. Unfortunately a C code auto, but at that price I didn't have many other options. Weekend jobs didn't put much in a 16 year old's pocket back in the 1970's. The MGB I replaced it with was much more money , over $1100.00 with tax. I still wonder how I afforded that one . But I was 18 by then and working more hours. The MGB also saved quite a bit on gas costs. Every little bit helped both then and even more so now.

Lots of pre war cars I like. But none of the ones I like are affordable in my current circumstance. Even more garage intensive than a tiny little Morgan so a double whammy on the affordability front. A $40,000 - $50,000 late teens / early 20's Marmon sport touring plus a $60,000 ++ garage is simply not in the cards. I just got rid of 2 Model A's last summer, they are not my thing anymore. The Model A's lived in a lean to shed, not quite the place to keep something even 1/2 ways decent.

I guess you are either a VW person or not. { or German cars of any sort for that matter }. I have driven pretty much every reasonably common , post war British car at one time or another. And enjoyed every one except the F.W.D. BMC's, Mini , Austin1100, Land Crab , etc. I have never even had a ride in a VW, let alone driven one. And never even slightly tempted to buy one. Hard to imagine MG and VW in the same sentence. Steve, I loved my 66 Mustang fastback that was my High School wheels. Easy to afford back in the mid 1970's, today not a chance. Inflation, downward mobility sucks !