Grant L. Meredith Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I was wondering if anyone could show me a pic of the throttle control from steering column to carb for my Master 1928? Mine is missing and would like to make one. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracenroc Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Which part of the control system do you mean in particular? Are you missing the complete mechanism or just a specific part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant L. Meredith Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Everything is there on the column. I move the lever on steering wheel and I can make the connection point where a rod would slip into work. But from that to carb throttle is missing. I'm assuming that's what's missing ofcourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Grant, I suppose this is a basic photo to get you started. This is a 26 Master. I suppose that you also want some more close up shots that perhaps someone could provide. The lower photo is 1925 Master (from Kevin) but I think this is a very different set up. It helps to not have a vacuum tank in the picture. Hugh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dracenroc Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) I have the engine out right now. Latest when I'm trying to reassemble I can provide you with details. Here a few pictures I made before the removal. As I have all the parts out I'm able to measure it and probably can make a sketch. Unfortunately I will not have the time for this the next week and it will take some time. Maybe someone else here? Edited June 22, 2018 by dracenroc (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracenroc Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) The rod to the engine side (the one with the spring attached) is connected to the accelerator pedal (lower end hole, from the middle hole goes the rod to the carb) connected to the firewall. Moving the lever on the wheel will pull the acc pedal forward. The connection to the carb is the same as by the acc pedal. I guess you are missing this rod to the acc pedal? If yes I have it removed and can give you some detail pics and measurements ( in a week plus...) Edited June 22, 2018 by dracenroc (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant L. Meredith Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 dracenroc that is the 1 I'm missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) Grant, If I missed a page in this, let me know. I think you are missing part 3.421 This is from the big book of parts. There are 4 listed for 1928. If yours is domestic model 54 then it is 18 11/16". Not sure where they take their dimensions from. You may want to verify the dimension from another rod on your car (my book has spark rod lengths also) to verify how they measure these, or you could a wait on Werner as his could be the same but he may have an export model which may differ? You could also make a list of the rods that will work and create a wanted ad and see if anyone has a spare one that would work for you. Hugh Edited June 23, 2018 by Hubert_25-25 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nfrutiger7 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Call Dave at rapp auto he has a lot of these parts still on cars probable gas 15 prewar buicks 570-798-0390 He has helped me with my 31 buick slot this year very knowledgeable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracenroc Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Grant, Hugh must be right, its 3.421 I guess. I don't have an export but I mixed 3.431 with 3.421, should be 3.421 3 hours ago, Hubert_25-25 said: Grant, If I missed a page in this, let me know. I think you are missing part 3.421 This is from the big book of parts. There are 4 listed for 1928. If yours is domestic model 54 then it is 18 11/16". Not sure where they take their dimensions from. You may want to verify the dimension from another rod on your car (my book has spark rod lengths also) to verify how they measure these, or you could a wait on Werner as his could be the same but he may have an export model which may differ? You could also make a list of the rods that will work and create a wanted ad and see if anyone has a spare one that would work for you. Hugh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Grant, I found these on a model T website. They look just like the Buick ends. You may be able to modify the rod to the correct length. Hugh https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/commutator-rod-swivel-end-993 https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/timer-adjusting-rod . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant L. Meredith Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 21 hours ago, Hubert_25-25 said: Grant, If I missed a page in this, let me know. I think you are missing part 3.421 This is from the big book of parts. There are 4 listed for 1928. If yours is domestic model 54 then it is 18 11/16". Not sure where they take their dimensions from. You may want to verify the dimension from another rod on your car (my book has spark rod lengths also) to verify how they measure these, or you could a wait on Werner as his could be the same but he may have an export model which may differ? You could also make a list of the rods that will work and create a wanted ad and see if anyone has a spare one that would work for you. Hugh Hugh, I do have this parts book, the gentleman I purchased the car from gave me that as well. I'll open it up. Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant L. Meredith Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 Hubert you are right very similar . I will call them Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant L. Meredith Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 20 hours ago, Nfrutiger7 said: Call Dave at rapp auto he has a lot of these parts still on cars probable gas 15 prewar buicks 570-798-0390 He has helped me with my 31 buick slot this year very knowledgeable Thank you Nfrutiger7, I'll give him a call!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracenroc Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Grant, Hugh must be right, its 3.421 I guess. I don't have an export but I mixed 3.431 with 3.421, should be 3.421 On 6/23/2018 at 6:18 AM, Hubert_25-25 said: Grant, If I missed a page in this, let me know. I think you are missing part 3.421 This is from the big book of parts. There are 4 listed for 1928. If yours is domestic model 54 then it is 18 11/16". Not sure where they take their dimensions from. You may want to verify the dimension from another rod on your car (my book has spark rod lengths also) to verify how they measure these, or you could a wait on Werner as his could be the same but he may have an export model which may differ? You could also make a list of the rods that will work and create a wanted ad and see if anyone has a spare one that would work for you. Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracenroc Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Grant, here some information: Part is called Steering Gear Throttle Rod. Part numbers are: 204395 Steering gear throttle rod 30700 Throttle rod adjust trunnion (the cube part) 115125 Ball Joint 103319 Lock washer, 1/4" 103451 Hex. machine screw nut, No. 12-32 107762 Cotter 3/32" x 5/8" last three parts belong to the ball joint. Below some pictures. Unfortunately only in metric cm and mm (I don't have an Inch ruler) The length in regard to the bend is 46cm 9mm as an example (in correlation to Hughs information about the 18 11/16" dev. length) The threads on the rod are for 1/4-28 nuts (12-28 thread?) The diameter is 5,6mm, picture shows sliding caliper, I'm sure you can read the figures in inch ? The blue cable straps are just to let me know on which part it gets connected. If you need more please ask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant L. Meredith Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 thank you......this will greatly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Rawling Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I have all the rods to go on a 1928 for both the master and standard. Call or email me if you still need them. fred.rawling@live.com or 562 644-4670 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Heil Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 What a wonderful forum thread. This is what the BCA is about! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant L. Meredith Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 Brian I'm sure am glad to have found the BCA! Been a great place to find people for help and share info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant L. Meredith Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 On 7/12/2018 at 4:19 PM, Fred Rawling said: I have all the rods to go on a 1928 for both the master and standard. Call or email me if you still need them. fred.rawling@live.com or 562 644-4670 email sent Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieBuick Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 6/23/2018 at 11:30 PM, Hubert_25-25 said: Grant, I found these on a model T website. They look just like the Buick ends. You may be able to modify the rod to the correct length. Hugh https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/commutator-rod-swivel-end-993 https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/timer-adjusting-rod . Thanks Hugh a good lead , new page https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/ProductDetail/T-3534-X_COMMUTATOR-ROD-SWIVEL-JOINT?fromCategory=SearchByKeyword Anyone have two genuine Buick ball joints ? Parts manual suggests common thru the 20's ..Thanks Norm (23-4-35) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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