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Grant, 

    I suppose this is a basic photo to get you started.  This is a 26 Master.  I suppose that you also want some more close up shots that perhaps someone could provide.  The lower photo is 1925 Master (from Kevin) but I think this is a very different set up.  It helps to not have a vacuum tank in the picture.     Hugh

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I have the engine out right now. Latest when I'm trying to reassemble I can provide you with details. Here a few pictures I made before the removal.

 

As I have all the parts out I'm able to measure it and probably can make a sketch. Unfortunately I will not have the time for this the next week and it will take some time. Maybe someone else here?

 

 

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The rod to the engine side (the one with the spring attached)  is connected to the accelerator pedal (lower end hole, from the middle hole goes the rod to the carb) connected to the firewall. Moving the lever on the wheel will pull the acc pedal forward. The connection to the carb is the same as by the acc pedal.

I guess you are missing this rod to the acc pedal?

 

If yes I have it removed and can give you some detail pics and measurements ( in a week plus...)

 

 

 

 

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Grant, 

      If I missed a page in this, let me know.   I think you are missing part 3.421   This is from the big book of parts.  There are 4 listed for 1928.  If yours is domestic model 54 then it is 18 11/16".  Not sure where they take their dimensions from.  You may want to verify the dimension from another rod on your car (my book has spark rod lengths also) to verify how they measure these, or you could a wait on Werner as his could be the same but he may have an export model which may differ?  You could also make a list of the rods that will work and create a wanted ad and see if anyone has a spare one that would work for you. 

   Hugh

 

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Grant, Hugh must be right, its 3.421 I guess. I don't have an export but I mixed 3.431 with 3.421, should be 3.421

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Hubert_25-25 said:

Grant, 

      If I missed a page in this, let me know.   I think you are missing part 3.421   This is from the big book of parts.  There are 4 listed for 1928.  If yours is domestic model 54 then it is 18 11/16".  Not sure where they take their dimensions from.  You may want to verify the dimension from another rod on your car (my book has spark rod lengths also) to verify how they measure these, or you could a wait on Werner as his could be the same but he may have an export model which may differ?  You could also make a list of the rods that will work and create a wanted ad and see if anyone has a spare one that would work for you. 

   Hugh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, Hubert_25-25 said:

Grant, 

      If I missed a page in this, let me know.   I think you are missing part 3.421   This is from the big book of parts.  There are 4 listed for 1928.  If yours is domestic model 54 then it is 18 11/16".  Not sure where they take their dimensions from.  You may want to verify the dimension from another rod on your car (my book has spark rod lengths also) to verify how they measure these, or you could a wait on Werner as his could be the same but he may have an export model which may differ?  You could also make a list of the rods that will work and create a wanted ad and see if anyone has a spare one that would work for you. 

   Hugh

 

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Hugh, I do have this parts book, the gentleman I purchased the car from gave me that as well.  I'll open it up. Thank you!!

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Grant, Hugh must be right, its 3.421 I guess. I don't have an export but I mixed 3.431 with 3.421, should be 3.421

 

 

 

On 6/23/2018 at 6:18 AM, Hubert_25-25 said:

Grant, 

      If I missed a page in this, let me know.   I think you are missing part 3.421   This is from the big book of parts.  There are 4 listed for 1928.  If yours is domestic model 54 then it is 18 11/16".  Not sure where they take their dimensions from.  You may want to verify the dimension from another rod on your car (my book has spark rod lengths also) to verify how they measure these, or you could a wait on Werner as his could be the same but he may have an export model which may differ?  You could also make a list of the rods that will work and create a wanted ad and see if anyone has a spare one that would work for you. 

   Hugh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Grant,

 

here some information:

 

Part is called Steering Gear Throttle Rod.

Part numbers are:

204395 Steering gear throttle rod

 30700 Throttle rod adjust trunnion (the cube part)

115125 Ball Joint

103319       Lock washer, 1/4"

103451       Hex. machine screw nut, No. 12-32

107762       Cotter 3/32" x 5/8"

 

last three parts belong to the ball joint.

 

 

Below some pictures. Unfortunately only in metric cm and mm (I don't have an Inch ruler) The length in regard to the bend is 46cm 9mm as an example (in correlation to Hughs information about the 18 11/16" dev. length)

The threads on the rod are for 1/4-28 nuts (12-28 thread?)

The diameter is 5,6mm, picture shows sliding caliper, I'm sure you can read the figures in inch ?

 

The blue cable straps are just to let me know on which part it gets connected.

 

If you need more please ask.

 

 

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On ‎6‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 11:30 PM, Hubert_25-25 said:

Grant, 

     I found these on a model T website.  They look just like the Buick ends.  You may be able to modify the rod to the correct length.     Hugh

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/commutator-rod-swivel-end-993

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/timer-adjusting-rod

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Thanks Hugh a good lead , new page https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/ProductDetail/T-3534-X_COMMUTATOR-ROD-SWIVEL-JOINT?fromCategory=SearchByKeyword

 

Anyone have two genuine Buick ball joints ? Parts manual suggests common thru the 20's ..Thanks Norm (23-4-35)

 

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