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Early 1920s Studebaker ?

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Please do not think I am ignoring all your messages of support. I cannot explain why I have some very black days, They just sneak up on me and Ker-pow-ie!  Stand well back. 

Rest assured work is continuing on the Studebaker. I am about to turn it around (with my trusty trolley jack) which will be good fun as I virtually have to turn it through 360 degrees in its own length. I have cut out all the side trim panels and only have the two foot well "kick boards" to cut out. I have to go out tomorrow to buy some black velour to line the door pockets and the "glove box"* that is to go into the passenger side of the dash-board. 
*I know that this will be "non-original" but it is a convenience that I have grown used to. Having one in all "my cars".

Door pockets are OK but they have their limitations. The Studebaker will still have a pocket in each door too, as original but I find with the "Flap" over the door pockets, you virtually have to come to a stop and open the door to get access to the front door pocket(s).

 

Without a "glove box" where would I put my little tin of peppermints? All weight-watchers please note these are Sugarfree.

The tin holds .34g or 17 serves of .2g each. Please do not ask me to count them. Once you tip them out to count them, you can never put them all back into the tin.

I still have to work out a use for the empty tins. They cost Aust $2. per tin when on "special' at the supermarket, perhaps I should save all my loose $2 coins in them.  Now I wonder how many $2 coins I could fit in a tin?

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The Jergens insert might work. I've been told to not recommend anything not specifically made for spark plugs so don't want to get in trouble. I think you should get one, look it over, see how the spark plug screws into it and how it seats then decide if you'll go ahead with installing.

 

You would then need a tap and drill. I think it was 24mm-1.5mm pitch and 57/64 inch drill

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/S-1pcs-24mm-x-1-5-Metric-HSS-Right-hand-Thread-Tap-M24-x1-5-mm-High-quality/301897593281?

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/57-64-size-HSS-Morse-MTS-MT-2-Drill-Drillbit-Dormer-A130/322185718996?

 

Or you can have a custom insert made at a machine shop like you said in the very beginning. It should not be too difficult. Inside M18-1.5 and outside threads greater than 22mm with maybe a lip so it can be screwed down and tightened.

 

Are the spark plugs you will use "washer-seat" as opposed to "taper-seat"?

 

There are no off the shelf spark-plug specific inserts available to fit the large hole you have unless you are willing to go back to the larger 7/8-18 size spark plugs.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello  Mike

I too would hate to see you "in trouble". I don't know where that came from.

I am waiting for a reply from Jergen's. Personally I think that their's is the best option. I am sure "Steve" could easily make something similar but I do not like pulling him off whatever he is doing he is currently; building a second Pizza (oven) trailer and rebuilding his second VW (2-3 tonne) van, which is all about making his & his family's livelihood. There is no great rush to have the Studebaker's engine running. I am not planing to drive it anywhere soon.  The 18mm plugs are a standard "washer seat" Champion D16. I have a million other things to be doing on it.

 

Bj.

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This morning's task, although it may appear a little premature, has been to strip the original black linoleum from the left hand side running board. This can shortly be (will be) replaced by new black linoleum but this morning's work was mainly to look at the original "boards". These are again more evidence of the cars reclusive life over the past seventy six years. Having removed all the little tacks that had been put in at some time to secure the lino', I could inspect the entire surface of the step. This I should point out is a soft wood, probably one of the many species of pine. Having spent perhaps 15 or 20 minutes first with  my angle grinder and then with an orbital sander, I am amazed. There will certainly not be any need to repair or replace any of it.   As could be expected the adhesive used to secure the linoleum in 1920 has largely dried out and lost all its adhesion qualities but the timber itself is absolutely sound and will not require any repair or replacement. At least to me, a sure indication of the dormant nature of the cars sheltered existence from 1941 to today.

This afternoon I can turn the car around and start work on the right hand side.

 

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I could say "No sooner said than done". Certainly my new trolley jack does make things a little easier . And not knowing the dead weight of the Studebaker must contribute something. Either was I can say "Jobs done! and I can start working on the right hand side of the car. Not having Helen's VW parked in its usual spot on the right hand side of the carport certainly made my task a little easier. Looking at the timber in this side running board it is apparent that I may have to do a tiny piece of repair to the extreme end of the running board where it attaches to the bottom edge of the rear mudguard. (fender). I will not know to what extent this repair is required until I get all the old Linoleum adhesive sanded off. One thing that is clear is that the right hand side of the car  did not suffer the same amount of "knocks and abrasions" as the left had.

 

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"One thing that is clear is that the right hand side of the car  did not suffer the same amount of "knocks and abrasions" as the left had."  Remember it is a Right Hand Drive car and that the left side is the "kerb" side

Either very early on the Studebaker had a very short owner/driver or they may have lost the parking "guide" from the left front mudguard.

This would have had a "standard" about 12 inches long standing vertical from it. It would have had a ball or tear-drop attached to the top so the driver could judge where the car was in relation to an obstacle on the road-side. That this one lost it's vertical secition may go some way to explain the "parking" damage to the outside edge of both front and rear mudguards (fenders). while the drivers side is almost completely un-scathed

 

bj.

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Hi Bernie,

The floorboards and running boards were made from hard yellow pine.  Like mine, yours looks to be in very nice shape and very minor restoration is needed. The original linoleum was a light gray color, not black. Your 97 year old linoleum has most likely dried out and darkened with age. Nice original picture on the Shorpy Site shows an original car  http://www.shorpy.com/node/19827?size=_original#caption. I have several other original photos that also show the light gray contrast and you can see the original 1922 Special Six Photos I posted a week or so ago showing the same.

Scott

 

 

 

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Thank you Scott

I will need to go back and look at the suppliers range of colours.  I still think that for my car that the contrast between the black mudguards and chassis rails together with the dark blue body, a light grey may look out of place. I need to put my "thinking hat" on to give this the necessary thought. As you are all too aware I am not necessarily a slave to originality. I tend to work on the rationale "if it looks right it is possibly OK."

 

Bj.

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I have now sent two orders, one for the "repair sleeve" from Jergens and a 24mm tap from Ebay, so something will happen eventually. I have a heap of other things to do so I do not expect to be too bored.

I am hopeless at waiting for paint to dry.

 

Bj

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At long last I have now learnt where to hood (top) for the Studebaker has ended up. I hope to be able to go and collect it next week.

It is certainly off the beaten track, up in the hill country of Victoria, anyone interested in seeing some our beautiful country could try finding in on Google maps:- Sargoods Road, Goorman, Vic Aust. 

 

Bj

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We are going to Goorman next Tuesday to collect the Stude Top but now I am wondering if it will fit into Helen's VW Jetta trunk.  Can some one please give me the measurement for the length of the bows from the pivot point to the top of the bow.

 

Thank you

 

Bernie j.

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