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#1 Smartin

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 11:56 PM

I had to grab this one...I'll scratch it off my "dream car" list <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif

Factory AC, Air Poise suspension (was converted to regular shocks), 4 note horns, power windows, brakes, steering, and some other stuff I'm sure I don't understand yet.

What a project car!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

I could hardly sleep last night...

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Those are NOS drums there...

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It is actually supposed to be a Silver Mist car...it has had one repaint in a slightly darker color. The underside of the trunk lid has the original paint on it:

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 12:24 AM

Adam, congratulations on this find!

This model is most certainly one of the great 1950's era "dream machines", and I'm thrilled that you picked this one up.

I look forward to your updates during the months and years ahead, as you enjoy this spectacular Buick!
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 12:33 AM

Thanks Brian...

I just remembered - it has a Wonder Bar radio, too.

I, myself, look forward to digging in and learning about these cars. I know very little about the available options, temperments, and other issues with the 58's.

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 12:37 AM

Adam, I'll be interested to learn whether this car retains its original Flight Pitch transmission or has been converted to the regular Dynaflow.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 12:46 AM

Yes, and I neglected to ask the question. But I'm sure I will find out quickly when I actually obtain the beast.


Now here's a question: I was looking through Kris Trexler's site, and noticed the underside of the trunk lids are different:

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 12:49 AM

Very interesting, Adam. Trexler's trunk lid looks almost like it was an extended Roadmaster or Super trunklid. I wonder if the date of manufacture or the assembly plant dictated the difference. It would be interesting to contact other owners of the 4-door Rivieras to see what you can learn.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 12:55 AM

Adam, Matt Menges in Wichita ("Electra" on the buick-59 forum) has both 2-door and 4-door '58 Limiteds. I'm sure that he would be happy to check his cars when he returns from Flint.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:18 AM

Wow! Looks like you'll be scratching spare money off your dream list too. Don't get me wrong, that car looks like it would be awesome refinished. And we've seen the quality of your work and know you can do it. But it does look like an intensive project. Good luck. Looking forward to seeing the pics as you go along.

By the way, I noticed it was your birthday recently ( courtesy of the v8 board) and would like to say Happy B day! This is a fine present you bought yourself...
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:31 AM

Congratulations Adam. That looks like a very solid car, not to mention the fact of what it is model-wise.

I'm looking forward to reading about your adventures with the car.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:32 AM

Very sharp car there. Congrats!

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:36 AM

I understood the money issue when I was told about this car. I had actually seen this particular car 2 years ago when I was looking at another one in the same building. My friend Hank Deglman was with me when I saw it, and we checked it out for a few minutes. He told me, "You're not ready for a 58, yet." He then proceeded to tell me how much his chrome and stainless bill was for his 58 Roadmaster convertible.

Well, I don't plan on handing over the entire pile of chrome to the shop at once, so I won't be sweating that all at one time.

I need a project like this. I need a challenge! This fits the bill nicely <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 10:48 AM

Wagons Ho, full speed ahead.

Congratulations.


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Posted 16 July 2008 - 01:41 AM

Adam
Nice find!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now here's a question: I was looking through Kris Trexler's site, and noticed the underside of the trunk lids are different:</div></div>

Possibly if the 58's are like 55's the trunk of a 2dr is longer than a 4dr.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 02:22 AM

Willie, I got confirmation that is true on the buick-59 site.

Thanks!

Are you at/on your way to Flint?

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 05:01 AM

WOW! Those are monsterous cars! They were a foot longer than a Cadillac of the same year! I had one back in the 60's; it was silver mist, too. Now the bad news.......not that I wish to be the bearer of such, but I discovered that the '58 Limiteds were somewhat of an experimental car. The original suspensions were rubber air bags that didn't last long, and soon, the car would become a "lowboy." The automatic transmission was the Flight Pitch type which also didn't pan out. There were a couple more issues which slip my memory just now, but beware, unless those issues have been remedied befor you purchased it. I DID love the looks of it, and it had room galore inside, and it was comfy, too.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:04 AM

Yep, the air poise suspension was replaced with coil springs. I am still unsure about the transmission, though. I'll have to wait and find out about that.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 01:29 PM

Adam, you may already know this, but if not, when you look under the car at the transmission pan, if it is a perfect square, that is the Flite-Pitch. If the trans was changed in the past, sometimes they also changed the gear indicator on the dash to the Dynaflow indicator, but I've seen several where they left the Flite-Pitch indicator in and just had to use memory as to where the gears were.

Flite-Pitches can be a pain, but when they work, they are great. If the LTD still has it, and it needs work, there are a couple people I know that specialize in rebuilding them, so there'll be no need to go the Dynaflow route.

Sweet machine, Adam!

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 01:48 PM

Adam,
You already have an excellent restored driver in your formal coupe, so taking on a long term project such as this is not so disheartening. You can always hop in the Centurion and take a break from the Limited.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 12:04 AM

BJM - I think that's the only way I can justify having two cars <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 03:49 PM

Picking it up today!

I hope I'm not the only one who loses sleep over this stuff.:D

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