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  1. I have been following the topic on attracting young people to the hobby. I recognize that many of the senior members have an unshakable perception of what is and isn't what they would call an "old" car. It makes me wonder just how old those really desirable cars were when they acquired them. So, those owners of the Great cars, built over 50 years ago, how old were they when you selected them? My '64 Riviera was about 15 years old when I bought it and I was 30. It is all of 52 now. I bought a collectible (to me) '94 car in 2012, 18 years old at the time. My '60 Buick was 42 in 2002 when it was brought into the fold. Looks like as I get older I buy older cars. Bernie
  2. Here is a tester I made up something around 30 years ago and I pull it out of the drawer quite often. I use it to test both grounding and power supply. The big clamp is for the negative battery post to test for a ground or the positive to apply power to a device that doesn't work. The wire is about 25' long to reach any device on the car. Just put it on the ground post and clip the small end to the taillight housing or bulb socket and you have a known completed ground, the same bypass works from the positive cable. See Scotty with his hands behind his back? Guess what he has in his hands. Oh, if you run into me with my '60 Electra I will show you my voice command engine start; no hands, no wires. I'm tricky like that. Bernie
  3. Very Sad (and I'm not talking about the car)

    I looked at the damage to that car and couldn't really figure out what happened. I did notice the dual master cylinder and disc brakes. From what I have heard and read I thought it must be way safer than a couple of my cars. Bernie
  4. I replaced all five of my u-joints right before I left for the Buick Nationals in Sandusky. The CV balls were fine. The joint cross won't come out like a normal one and I had to cut it with a torch. The rest is straight forward. Cadillac CV driveshafts are described as non-ervicable and to be replaced as a unit. I believe that. I took a '67 Caddy driveshaft back to a specialty shop three times before I picked up a good used one. The repaired one leaned in a corner of my garage for close to 20 years before I through it out. Bernie
  5. Dynaflow differences 59-63

    Is your car licensed and able to be driven? It sounds like the pump is not picking up a suction. How long did you leave it in Drive? If it is a car that has been sitting around, not driven, it may take a while. It is one of those things where the pump loses suction, but once it establishes it, the car will be fine until it sets overnight. If it was mine I would head down the road in LOW and nudge it into DRIVE every 500 feet or so. If you don't hear and feel the torque converter fill and start pulling you will need to pull it and repair. The '63 is not a torque tube drive so iy is different. Bernie
  6. How old was your car when you bought it?

    The thought mostly came from ways to recruit younger people into the ranks of active hobbyists. I thought the similarities of the age of what one considered an old/collector car when they entered might shed some light. Maybe, maybe not. I had dinner with my Wife tonight and she went back to work for a youth program. It is a government entity struggling with losses in financial support. In tonight's conversation I told her that six years ago, when I had a stroke, heart attack, multiple bypasses, and the routines that go with it, I talked with the cardiologist after the big turn around. He told me that for every ten years I followed the rules and maintained my health the medical community would advance its skills to help me get another ten years. Living another 40 years was not unrealistic. I told her tonight that I came home considering how to support myself/us for another 40 years. The first step was to get online and look at successful business models in Third World Countries. Ponder the motivation behind that and it pretty much wraps up my thoughts on the old car hobby, future members, and a whole lot of other stuff rolled in. Oh, yes, I do have a plan based on the findings and it is being implemented. "I" plan on buying a few more cars. It should be a buyer's market. Bernie
  7. Antique car Insurance

    My Daughter is 32. We got AAA for her when she started driving and now we all have it. At some point I licensed my first of 6 Jaguars during that time. I opted for the extended towing using Jaguar ownership as the reason. To date the only car that has been hauled was a 65 mile trip with my '60 Electra. My Wife thinks that's funny.
  8. That bit of technology is a P right in the A. Mine has never really worked seamlessly and to my satisfaction. Once I took the steering mast cover off and removed the column bracket nuts. With the whole thing lowered it was easier to get to the adjusting bolts on the switch. That was over 20 years ago. I had the car out yesterday. Maybe I will be inspired this weekend and monkey with it. If I do I will lower the column. It might be easier to rig it with voice command using today's technology. Bernie
  9. Very Sad (and I'm not talking about the car)

    Wait until 4 PM on Friday to leave. More of a chance of being mugged in your car than an accident at speed. I left a 2PM meeting at the 106th ANG one Friday. OnStar even gave up on me.
  10. Sheet Metal Forming Needed

    My first thought, as well. The pictures need a "flashcard effect" and some has been '80's rock. Good luck with the parts. Someone must have already said "That's not gonna be cheap." What ever did happen to those TV producers whom snuggled up to the AACA a while back. Don't hear much about it. Bernie
  11. Can you ID this 60s(?) lower control arm?

    Here is a pair of '64's taken around 1994. Close, huh. AND a closet shoe rack with the little round thingies cut out makes a great hanger for painting small parts.
  12. A Bit Off Topic Museum Closing

    Naming an undertaking a Museum, and incorporating it as one, carries some stiff regulations when you start operating. Credentials for staff are critical. A certified archivist must be in the mix somewhere and the preservation as well as research carries credentialed requirements. There is a lot to it. In the early 1990's I was part of a group trying to create a Rochester, New York automotive museum. I still have a notebook with the operations guideline. The City was supportive and had two locations available. Rehabilitating the buildings was our responsibility. In the end, as hobbyists, we were pretty much limited to dusting the cars. That was 20 years ago. I would bet regulations are tighter today. It's a tough place out there when compliance rears its head. As an example, the village I live in had a truck terminal for sale. A church wanted to buy it and change the zoning use. They were blocked because the board thought there might be too much noise in the neighborhood on Sunday mornings. It has reopened as a truck terminal 7 days a week. A small museum owner is going to run into that mentality and worse. Bernie
  13. How old was your car when you bought it?

    So you have the car today and it was about 29 years old when you bought it.. OK. As a courtesy, because you write good stuff, I Googled the other terms you used. I was smiling all the way up to the diner for coffee wondering if there was any possibility two 12 year old boys in 1845 could have achieved any dialectic point while sitting on the banks of Chautauqua Lake. AND I am sure there is a great story on how the term ever entered your vocabulary. Oh, idioms and the like always entertain me. Did you mean apples like these. And oranges like these. Just to be sure I am grasping the concept. I own a 1986 Buick Park Avenue that I bought in 2011 at 26 years old. It is 30 now. No one thinks it is an old car, except one of my Nephews. But I do have a lot of fun with old cars. Bernie
  14. How old was your car when you bought it?

    Over the years I have noticed that, in general, the oldest hobbyists bought their cars at a relatively low price when the car was around 20 years old. I surely know of exceptions, but they are a minority. After they have owned their car for a generation or so a younger hobbyist may do the same thing the old guy did, but the car is usually not to the old guy's liking. From experience and conversations the price on a good "keeper" can be adjusted to the economy at $3,000 to 4,000 at the time of purchase, many times much less. I didn't see a lot of that in the replies. That may not be a large computer using group. Cars purchased during the inflation period of the 1980's and '90's tend to be higher in price, owned by 80 year old's with less mechanical skills. I think a lot of them sit in garages, unused and with mechanical problems. Those are cars bought by "early retirees" of the time, 55-60 year old's skimming off the retirement lump for that "dream car" they always wanted. They got cars they paid too much for or couldn't fix. When did the term barn find increase in popularity? There is another group that did not show up in numbers. The ones with Dad's collection or family collections. Those are out there. I wasn't really going there, but I did have to show my Wife. She is a young adult librarian, not young herself (living with me would age anyone) but provides programs for grade school through High School children on a pretty intensive schedule. I called her into my little office and said "Hey, read this topic and the replies." She reads fast and after a bit she stopped and looked at me. "They don't follow instructions any better than my kids do." "Yeah, really" My point was that the young people are going out and buying a nice desirable car at a reasonable price that appeals to them. They have the intent to keep it, just like the old guys did when they did the same thing. I did it when I was 30 and again when I was 60. I got the same response both times "What are you doing here with that?" "Ummm, doing the same thing I did 30 years ago." "Well, that 50 year old car is appropriate, not this new one, only 20 years old." "It wasn't the first time I showed up." Remember, it is the collector car you have now. How old was it when you got it. Not the car you had and don't have any more. That was covered in another topic.
  15. I have been called arrogant for quite a few things as the years have rolled by and in this instance, I really don't care for a car from a person who doesn't have the attention to detail to spell the words in their ad correctly. I would just move on.. Repaint, odd color combination, and, what I think is the wrong color headliner, are other things that detract from a kind of boring car. Cars really do tend to carry the karma of the previous owner. I have one now that is a nice enough car, but makes me feel like washing during and after I drive it. A sleazy car salesman owned it before me. On the spelling thing, a couple of years ago I decided to stop searching "convertable" on line, simply because I don't want that person's car. I am just like that. I know the most common term. And I'm smiling while I write this. There is critique and opinion all wrapped up together. Bernie
  16. I always had a lot of problems with my signal lights being dim or not flashing. The socket in the taillight housing doesn't look like it was designed for 50 years, especially the ground. I grounded mine to the body through the taillight housing studs. They are bright and they blink now. I don't expect that crappy little cable operated switch to ever work really well, and after 40 years I always double check the level for return after a turn. My replacement socket had a metal ground tab. I just came in from the back side and soldered a wire to it and tied them together. Bernie
  17. I recognize that shirt. Does he ever see this guy when he is shopping?
  18. How old was your car when you bought it?

    After posing the question, reading the answers, and thinking about it, I think the 25 year designation may have been flawed. At the time it was introduced, 25 years aligned with a significant evolutionary point in automobiles, but evolution does not advance in yearly increments. Lifespans for individuals generally total 4 generations with social, but not technical changes. And memories are long, as well as impressions lasting. I think the 80 year old car hobby was spawned by a rising economy, blossomed during years of national wealth, and is declining with the decreased economical advantages to the two youngest generations. We are also at a significant evolutionary point in the automotive evolution. There is change for sure. A lot doesn't include cars. I bet the future will remark "Car collecting, that was done during a period of personal wealth and transportation back when people believed oil was some sort of juice from dinosaurs. It lasted nearly 100 years." Enjoy your cars and welcome others. It is all finite. Bernie
  19. Fallen Angels?

    I pretty much like them all. And I will bring anything home at least once. The XK is not outrageously priced at $17,000. I have no problem bringing home a car like either pictured, putting it in the back of the garage, and enjoying nothing more than its silhouette. A couple years ago I had an open XKE that I was afraid to open both doors at the same time. No problem, I didn't. Club members have stopped in and looked at something like that. "When are you ever going to get that finished?" is a typical outburst. "Never" is the nonchalant reply. They care more than I. One Wife for 36 years and a couple hundred cars, I restrain myself when the divorced guys say I was foolish with my money. In fact, restraint is my least recognized attribute. I was at the Rolls-Royce shop today leering at a customer's black '97 Continental R coupe. I have other facets of my live that demand rationality. Hobbies are different. Bernie
  20. Fallen Angels?

    There's an old saying that goes "A half a yard of concrete doesn't sound like much, until it is half a yard more than you need. That goes for Rolls-Royce parts in a $120 a month storage unit. The best thing to do is look for an uninformed buyer. I have never really had a problem bringing home a real mess. I get to know them, clean them up, and pass them on. The important thing is to always charge enough so the new owner is deeply committed to the car. You may have to suffer some extra profit, but it is all for the sake of the car. Sell to cheaply and they just don't appreciate them. Bernie
  21. No trip along RT 2 is complete without a stop at Granny's Ice Creamatorium. If you stop you will learn all about the converted funeral home.
  22. 1966. '60 Invicta. Vertical rise of 6" while power braking. 85 speedo read on measured 1/4 at the end of my street. Pegged the speedometer regularly with summer tires. My Father said "You;re not getting one of those 327's or 409's." "Well, this black Buick is a pretty nice car."
  23. Oh, for those who pay attention to background details, same house, still favor black cars, more of the old orchard is lawn.
  24. Here is my Dad's car, the one I took my driver's test on. They were rot boxes when they were new. His car was a 289 3 speed and he traded it in on a 1966 Ford. Three years and about 50,000 miles was an acceptable lifespan. I liked the '64 body style better. It had the more solid look of a GM car to me. I owned a '64 Galaxie 500 convertible with a 390, 4 speed. The instant memory is the gas tank falling out and dragging behind me by the fuel line. After a couple of years the springs would sag and guys would put them on a lift, then use a big bar to reverse the spring shackles to raise them up again. My Brother bought one through our car lot around 1968. He put new fenders on it, patched the rockers and truck floor, and got a decent coat of a bronze color on it. I drove it for a day while home on leave one time. It was a bucket seat car and I still remember it being the most painful seat I ever had my back against. Like women, some cars are just for memories and day dreams. A '63 Galaxie is a good example. Bernie Ford did make a big deal out of it being a half year release at the time.