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65 Riv color change?? Opinions desperately needed

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Hi Guys. This may seem like either a dumb question or obvious answer situation, but here goes anyway. I have a 65 425 single barrel with some pretty cool rare options. I am ready to repaint her and the original color was shell beige. Pretty boring, but it is what it is, or was.

I think I need to stick with the original color because of the value of the car but I am not necessarily tickled by shell beige. It is a stock restoration so I guess I am answering my own question. If I was going to bag her and cut up the sheet metal a bit, a color change probably wouldn't matter, huh?

I would appreciate any and all comments good, bad, and indifferent. Even to those of you that only READ this board, I would love to hear from you too. Thanks in advance

Dave

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Dave,

The last I heard, if you own the car, you can paint it any color you want. Some people will bad mouth you because you dared to change the "original color", the original color was bare metal. You know of course, that there's a lot more involved in a color change than a simple repaint. Certain colors will draw more attention than others, shell beige was/is attractive to some, that's why GM buyers had color choices.

Good luck!

Jim

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If you paint it a factory color, you shouldn't hurt the value and may even increase it ( I agree that Shell Beige is pretty bland ) Kevin

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Paint the car the color you want. If you are concerned about shows paint the car a color that was offered that year and something that would go well with the interior. The BCA does not deduct points for color change as long as you retain a color that was offered for that model and year. Dont paint the car to satisify someone else ! Hope <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />this helps.

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OK Dave: I got my 65 Riv GS in 1976. it originaly was black with a saddle custom interior. Five years later and really needing a paint job I went to a non metallic shade of burgundy. I don't like black cars and I love burgungy. My friend and I played around with the color shading for almost a week when he finally thought he had something I'd like, and on went the burgundy Imron. The car has never been garaged and I shine it up a few times a year.The paint is very thin and it has quite a few dings and chips but guess what? From 50 feet still is the best looking 65 Riviera on the planet!! Good luck. Mitch

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If you can do it, go with the color you like and you will enjoy the car more (looking at it, showing it off, etc.). If it was mine, I would tend to stick with the colors offered in the year built. On the other hand, I have plenty of friends that have painted vintage cars/trucks with newer car stock colors, even custom blends, and they love to drive those vehicles more than anything else in their stables. In fact, they get more comments at shows than I've ever seen.

All I can tell you is... if you are going to keep the Riv., make the car exciting to you and forget what everyone else may say about originality. That way, you will never get bored with it. (And if you do... paint it something else)

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Thanks for all the comments. I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE!!

I do not plan on keeping this one. I have another one that I AM keeping and this one was more of a hobby resto project. I am leaning toward the Sahara Mist color. It is a '65 color and has a bit more flavor than the plain beige. It seems that Sahara Mist would still scream "stock", and it is not a frame off deal so the next owner will be driving her as opposed to keeping her as a museum piece.

Dave

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Sahara Mist is a great color that can have a lot of depth to it where Beige can look flat. It's one of my favorite colors on the first gen Rivieras.

Post some pictures when you get to the paint stage. I would love to see 'em.

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Dave:

I'd agree with the general consensus of paint the car the color you like. I too would prefer to stick with a factory color offered for the year of your car, but again that is my preference. I don't think you'll hurt the value by sticking with a factory color. My two cents.

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Although not a 65 Riv, I did a complete color change on my 72 Riviera. This is the before.

I couldn't find the car I wanted in the color I desired, but I had a great 72, so I made it into what I wanted. It was done over a winter so I had a lot of fun rolling out the "new" car in the Spring.

I agree with the others. Pick a color you enjoy, if you are concerned with keeping it stock, pick another color available that year that is appealing to you.

Of course be prepared to maybe miss the old color and decide you need to buy another car down the line...

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OK Kris and Dave: Your color change looks like you have an entirely different car. I think it's fun. One other note. I had mentioned this on the 59 Buick post a while back. Another favorite car of mine is a 2 door 65 Catalina. The body lines really appeal to me. I traditionally went for dark colors untill one day I saw a 65 Catalina coupe in Iris Mist. I never realized that on cars where the body lines are so striking, (also like the 63,64,and 65 Rivieras)a non-reflective color can really bring out the style. As a matter of fact, Coral mist on a 64 Riviera seems to generate considerable interest. Mitch.

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YOU GUYS ARE REALLY AWESOME!!

I appreciate you all taking the time to help me make this decision.

If anybody else is reading this, toss your comments in too. More info/opinions are always better.

Thanks again

Dave

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Changing color is a question that has been nagging us on our 69.Ours was repainted Black from the Antique Gold..However the "hidden areas" like inside truck lid,inside door,front fenders where the hood closes were not done on the repaint..I am hedging twords putting it back to original paint due to the time and expense that would be saved not having to fuss with those areas.

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Dave,

I am with Jim and the others who say paint it the color that you want it, while keeping in mind what your intent is for the car. I have a 1976 BMW 2002, no historic value, rare options, or personal ties. I purchased it to work on since I learned to drive on a 1974 Ford Capri and 1976 BMW 2002; I couldnt find a Capri so I got the latter. In short, I wanted to paint it Malaga (burgundy) and unfortunately listened to friends who said put it back stock. The car was painted black (a poor respray) and was originally Chamonix (off white). During my restoration, I painted it "white diamonds", a GMC color that you see on many newer Cadillac models. It is very close to the original color but with a little kick to it (silver pearl). The car presents very well. It has a modified engine and a modified period correct interior. In fact, Microsoft used it in one of their new Zune mp3 ad campaign shoots. In short, there is nothing original about it so I should have just painted it the color I wanted to in the first place.

The "bare metal is the original color" was a great response, which I have shared with many. Anyway, I am new to this board and new to Rivieras. I purchased a 1963 last September, which is undergoing a bare metal paint now. I look forward to learning from, and sharing with all of you. I will post some pictures of my project under a separate thread so as not to hijack this one. Best of luck and enjoy your car.

Roger

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A couple of things to keep in mind. You say you are not going to keep the car. I would paint the car a color that is most marketable . Years ago I had a dealer try and sell a 64 Loaded Riv. for me. He could not sell it and said that if it was any other color but baige it would have sold. Last of all if you do paint the car get a GOOD paint job. Guessing 3 to 5K and up would do it. Stay away from the 20 footers. I would rather buy a car with old paint then a cheap job. The cheap job just means more paint to take it off later and its a guessing game as to what the new paint is covering up.

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Thanks for the comments Dick and Roger. I agree that this is not going to be a "cheap" paintjob. In Orange County, it is about a $5-$7K deal to get done completely and right.

I am really falling for Al Schmidt's Champagne color, now. It just looks so classy!! Plus, I don't think many buyers would walk because of that color. It may not be their first choice in some cases, but beautiful nonetheless.

Dave

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