tbirdman Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Well the general consensus was no stone guard for my 32 903 Coupe Roadster. Thanks for the inputs. West did bring up chrome wire wheels as being unnecessary too. Of course West would have put black walls on the car while I wanted white walls. I though that was going to be a definite project for me down the road. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I like they way you have it now.My one cent worth. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 As usual I'd say, hey, it's your car so do what pleases you. If it's not something that is going to effect the points "thingy" in judging, if that even matters, do what YOU want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 That's what happens when you buy a car that is already restored and Perfect. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I think you need to find another car that needs restoring, then you will have plenty to keep you busy, and won't be trying to think up ways to 'mess up' that one. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />BTW, Stone-guards make it very hard to clean and wax the grille. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">clean and wax <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> </div></div>Speedster,If my kids used language like that I'd put 'em in the corner for a month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Not that I do 'Crazy' things like 'Cleaning and Waxing' but I've heard of people that actually Do That. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Ask me sometime about Zaino brothers polish instead of wax - on another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 I guess I'm partial to wires as I have them on my T-Bird and I think they make the car along with the Tonneau cover and the skirts...but I hear you all! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 I've been again thinking about chroming my wire wheels. Seems like 99.5% of those I ask for a opinion, say keep them painted. So I wonder why most of the show cars I see, have chrome plated wheels. Most people say the color on my wheels tie in very nicely with the color of the car and that the additional chrome of the wires would be too much for such a subtle color. Also, they said I have enough chrome already, and this would be over the top.1932 Packard 1932 Packard pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpushbutton Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I don't think it's as easy as one may think to chrome the wheels you have--they have to come apart 100%, any pits in the rim and hub (which may be filled with primer/filler now) have to be copper-built up then totally sanded down to a common surface, the spokes have to be equally as pit-free and truthfully should be replaced with new spokes, likewise for the nipples, they need to be good, and the chrome plating can't bugger up the female threads. Then after you get all of that done, they have to be assembled on a hub-fixture with a run-out gauge, tweaked to minimal run-out. In other words, they can’t dunk your wheels in the tank whole and call it done.Or you can buy a set from Don Sommer (American Arrow) who will do all of that using new materials, about $2K/wheel, and I'm thinking the process I describe for chroming your old wheels might equal that amount.Personally I like the painted rims. I love seeing a car (especially Packards) at shows done in keeping with the norm(as viewed by vintage photographs and films) of its time and not using the "for $35 dollars they would paint it any color" saw or have every possible option in the book thrown on. Who was the famous fashion authority that advised women to "dress for the evening, accessorize, then remove two accessories" --good advice for cars too.Your car is beautiful in those pictures, my personal favorite vintage for Packards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 My thoughts are the same, but as was pointed out, in the end you need to do what YOU want to do. I admire you for seeking opinions from a LOT of different people. Too many people turn a really neat car into something no one else admires (not that they don't have the right to do so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mrpushbutton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think it's as easy as one may think to chrome the wheels you have--they have to come apart 100%, any pits in the rim and hub (which may be filled with primer/filler now) have to be copper-built up then totally sanded down to a common surface, the spokes have to be equally as pit-free and truthfully should be replaced with new spokes, likewise for the nipples, they need to be good, and the chrome plating can't bugger up the female threads. Then after you get all of that done, they have to be assembled on a hub-fixture with a run-out gauge, tweaked to minimal run-out. In other words, they can’t dunk your wheels in the tank whole and call it done.Or you can buy a set from Don Sommer (American Arrow) who will do all of that using new materials, about $2K/wheel, and I'm thinking the process I describe for chroming your old wheels might equal that amount. </div></div>Don Sommers is 20K for repro wheels or 12K if he uses your hub. Dayton wants $950/wheel which is up from $600 a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My thoughts are the same, but as was pointed out, in the end you need to do what YOU want to do. I admire you for seeking opinions from a LOT of different people. Too many people turn a really neat car into something no one else admires (not that they don't have the right to do so). </div></div>West,I find it difficult to visualize changes so that's why I ask so many. I hat to spend the money if in the end I have something that I don't even like. I also find it's interesting why so many are on the painted side, but very few on the chrome side. I do plan to added painted side covers to the sidemouts which will add to the finish look.Funny is I can almost visualize how good this car would look with blackwall tires now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Miller Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 tbirdman, to begin, I have a 1933 Packard Twelve Convertible Sedan which is a Senior Emeritus CCCA 100 pointer and also was judged in a tie at the Packard Centennial meet as the best Twelve Convertible. It has painted wheels. I have other Full Classics but the point I'm attempting to make is that you don't have to "gild the lily." Your Packard is wonderful. The colors are tasteful and of the period. Don't put anymore lights on it and don't put anymore chrome on it. But that's my opinion and its your car to do with as you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ed Miller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">tbirdman, to begin, I have a 1933 Packard Twelve Convertible Sedan which is a Senior Emeritus CCCA 100 pointer and also was judged in a tie at the Packard Centennial meet asyou don't have to "gild the lily." Your Packard is wonderful. The colors are tasteful and of the period. Don't put anymore lights on it and don't put anymore chrome on it. </div></div>OK, I here all of you. Looks like I will save a bunch of expense this winter. However I wll rechrome the front grill. The front grill chrome is original and is very presentable. However it keeps reminding me of a beautiful woman with yellow teeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Putting on the missing side covers for your sidemounts will be a big improvement.Your white sidewalls really look pretty nice, since your wheel color is so dark. I like the tires you picked as well. It's a nice aggressive-looking tread and sidewall. I agree with Ed: No more lights.I'm assuming you're not asking for opinions in regards to replating your grille shutters, as that's just an issue of weather you want to improve on quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl B. Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Well, as long as it's costing to post, here's my 2 cents worth too.... The custom paint job in 1932 was $110, not $35. Chromed wire wheels, best as I remember, was the large sum of $10 per wheel.... and whitewalls, another option were $1.25 per tire, best as I can remember. To specify the name brand of tire you wanted on the car, from the 4 brands offered, again, best memory serves me, was $1.00 per tire. In looking at old photos of dealer showrooms, most cars did have blackwall tires. Then, like now.. decisions, decisions, decisions.... Tbird, it's a beautiful car!!! B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm assuming you're not asking for opinions in regards to replating your grille shutters, as that's just an issue of weather you want to improve on quality. </div></div>Not really looking for opinion on them. The local Packard guys think I shouldn't mess with them because they think they are good enough, but I think that they need re-platng especially since really nothing else needs to be done on the outside of the car. Of course I already have one of the nicest cars in the club, so they think I'm crazy to try to improve it I guess I'm just sick. A lot of people think I trailer the car and can't believe I drive it.I hadn't considered adding lights but now that you mentioned it.....how about flashing leds like the rice burners.Well now I got the hood off (in my mind that is) now or someone to figure out how to remove the shutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I wonder what chromed wood wheels would look like. Just kidding around here. Off subject here but Ken the picture of the dash is that before or after restoration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 That's the after. Here's the before .I hope you can see the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 O yes. The before looks like mine now not much shine to it. They did a great job on it. Mine will be done sometime in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 Dayton wheels is charging the same for painted or chrome wheels, $950. If you just want what they call a B level restoration, it is $550 per wheel. B level restorations don't bother with filling in pits except what the primer will cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Dayton Wire is about two miles from my office. Right across the street from my son's high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dayton Wire is about two miles from my office. Right across the street from my son's high school. </div></div>So can I ship my wheels to you for you to look after and can you get me a AACA discount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 For grins, I added chrome wire wheels to my car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 That was quick nice job . Looks good.Only thing about chrome wire wheels is cleaning them I had them on an old motorcycle what a treat to cleaning them.By the looks of them shutters they don't look to bad in this picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Would be interesting to see a Photoshopped pic of your Packard sporting wires with painted hubs and rims and polished stainless spokes, another legitimate option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dayton Wire is about two miles from my office. Right across the street from my son's high school. </div></div>So can I ship my wheels to you for you to look after and can you get me a AACA discount </div></div>Ship them to me. I'll show up at their doorstep and tell them if they advertise with us (AACA) I'll give them your business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I really, REALLY believe that once you get your sidemount cover on, you'll see a world of difference. JUST DON'T CHROME IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Restorer32,Was there an option for spoke rims for the '31 model year just curious?Wish I had photoshop so I can try chroming the wood spook wheels to see what it would look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Packin31</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That was quick nice job . Looks good.Only thing about chrome wire wheels is cleaning them I had them on an old motorcycle what a treat to cleaning them.By the looks of them shutters they don't look to bad in this picture. </div></div>Actually the shutter is this picture are stuck open because of the themostatic control is on the fritz. I chose to adjust them open until I replaced the unit the winter as it only happened 3 weeks ago.The shutters were what I call driver chrome. Excellent for being original, but not up to the rest of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Restorer32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would be interesting to see a Photoshopped pic of your Packard sporting wires with painted hubs and rims and polished stainless spokes, another legitimate option. </div></div>That could be a possibility though I need to find a car with wheels close to mine. Let me see what I can fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: West Peterson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really, REALLY believe that once you get your sidemount cover on, you'll see a world of difference. JUST DON'T CHROME IT! </div></div>West,On the two pictures, I like the painted wheels the best. SO maybe you were right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Actually, and i could be wrong, the official factory option for chrome was just the spokes. The wheels and hubs should be painted. Of course, with a high-end car like Packard, the customer got what he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Block Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I say "I liked the painted option too." Now maybe chrome spokes would look good with painted hubs and rims, But I don't think that beit.Saying that I wished Packard had an option for chrome spoked wheel for my 42 Limo. I think that would look boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Uh, West? Part # 88248, wheel assembly wire (chromium plated) for the 903 and 904 and part # 98242, wheel assembly (chromium plated hub, painted spokes, nipples and rims) for the 901 and 902. Painted of course also available along with wood and discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpushbutton Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 First picture--stock appearance, chrome hub cap and outer ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Love the chrome hood doors on the second car, a seldom seen option. I have an original 900 hood with chrome doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Thanks for clarifying, Jeff.I like the look of the painted hub and rim with the chrome spokes, but of course, it looks best with black tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I would like to see a Packard with full chrome plated discs, another legitimate option, at least on the 900 (poor man's Packard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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