Hybrid Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Being that I am real slow to get to my restoration projects, I want to get opinions on the best way to store engines that you intend to rebuild in the future. One local club member fills the entire engine (cylinders and all) with his used motor oil. Will that work to protect internal components from rusting/freezing up? Any better ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I dont think i would be using old oils as they contain acids that have built up from combustion, i have filled motors that have been stuck with new ATF tranni fluid and diesel in the cylinders with good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Hi, Hybrid...welcome to the forum.For commercial castings produced daily in my business (foundry/machining), we utilize a bag, of which, is fairly close to a large trash bag, however, the mils are thicker than the average household trashbag. They come in various sizes depending on the need. (Small for hardware size pieces-to-large to fit into a truck's pallet size container.)These bags are treated to create a mono-molecular atmosphere, whereas, it generates a "very" light oil over the part to prevent oxidation. We have literally stored new castings in wet, damp, snow conditions for over a year, and, if no holes are punched in the bags, there is absolutely no oxidation.The bags can be ordered in many sizes. Just like a trash bag, you insert the subject part/parts, twist the 'ole twisty, and, leave it alone. Respond if you need further info. When I get to the office Monday, I could have our Purchasing Director give me name, address, etc.Regards, Peter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Pedro, This info should be on here, I would think. That sounds like great stuff. Most of my junk isn't worth caring for like that, but some people's are. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Howdy, Wayne...seeing as you are my "Senior" by a mere 2 weeks, I am obligated to show respect for my elders, so...Sorry, bud...these bags do not tout cryogenics to preserve a human body, just preserve metal objects.I am depressed just typing this...Pedro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Pedro BAD!, BAD!, BAD! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pedro, This info should be on here, I would think. That sounds like great stuff. Most of my junk isn't worth caring for like that, but some people's are. Wayne </div></div>Wayne, The Ford and Peterbilt parts are worth careing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another old car Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 hybridone thing that I do when storing a engine long term is remove valve cover or covers and back off all valve springsjust something I feel is overlooked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Posted November 23, 2003 Author Share Posted November 23, 2003 Thanks for the replies. I wondered about the used oil as possibly being corrosive. The bag idea sounds interesting. In the Pacific Northwest everything rusts if left out. Peter I would like the details of who to contact to find out more detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Hybrid...I will get the info tomorrow and post it in the evening.Regards, Peter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48LCCOUPE Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 In the Pacific Northwest everything rusts if left out. In such an arrid environment?That's why I left Oregon to come to Florida. Not enough rain in Pacific Northwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Hybrid...here is some info on the rust preventative bags, etc.:ULINE, 2200 S. Lakeside Dr., Waukegan, IL 60085--1-800-295-55510--uline.com________________________________________________________________________________Anti-Rust Paper. Ask them about the "Heavy Duty" Paper as the ad touts "excellent to protect steel, iron and other ferrous metals during long term storage".Poly-Bags: (this is what we use at Donsco for raw casting rust prevention)Corrosion inhibitor is embedded in low density polyethylene film.Stretch Wrap: (this may be the best, and, easiest for your engines).Corrosion inhibitor is embedded in the stretch film.Hope this helps somehow,Regards, Peter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Hybrid...I will be sending 6 bags via snail-mail tomorrow. Use wire ties instead of steel wire or a twisty. Give me a yell for any further info.They should do the trick.Regards, Peter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Posted January 27, 2004 Author Share Posted January 27, 2004 Just an update to all on my storage problem of engines outside in the endlessly damp Pacific Northwest. Peter J found me some special treated poly bags big enough to put the engines in. They have now sat outside in the rain (and occasional snow) for a month. I opened one the other day and they look great. No damp, no sweating, no icicles! Getting them into the bags without tearing them was an engineering marvel, but patience won out. Thanks Peter. Now if I could just find one big enough to put my parts cars in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Hybrid...glad the bags worked out OK. They are good, no doubt about it.I was wondering, too, about getting the parts in without tearing them. Again, glad that aspect worked out fine.Take care, Peter J. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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