Antique car, 1927-28 Paige 8-85 Straightaway 5 passenger sedan , not mine.

[cjmarzoli]

Early form of "backwoods" EGR?   Looks like the crankcase vent tube is aimed directly into the intake throat of the carburetor.  Of course there is no room for any sort of air cleaner.   Carb is probably a non stock replacement.  The more we see of this car the more "hacked" it looks, but we'd still love to know what it actually started life as!

[Xander Wildeisen]

45 minutes ago, 29PierceArrow said:

Here's some pics I took yesterday. Wierd looking carburetor. Can someone help identify the year of this motor. I'm considering buying it.

 

Tom Griffith    lincoln1955@msn.com

 first picture of a Home made crank case venting valve/pipe to recirculate back through the carb

[29PierceArrow]

When I was there yesterday I did notice that the vent pipe is aimed directed into the air intake port of the carburetor. Does that recirculate the air back through the carb??

Why would you need to do this?

[29PierceArrow]

Question for you all: 

He's come down some from the $9k. What is this engine and drive train worth knowing I have to spend $20k to rebuild it [according to my engine rebuilder].

[Xander Wildeisen]

8 minutes ago, 29PierceArrow said:

When I was there yesterday I did notice that the vent pipe is aimed directed into the air intake port of the carburetor. Does that recirculate the air back through the carb??

Why would you need to do this?

Owner went green before anyone else.

[kar3516]

4 minutes ago, 29PierceArrow said:

Question for you all: 

He's come down some from the $9k. What is this engine and drive train worth knowing I have to spend $20k to rebuild it [according to my engine rebuilder].

There isn’t any way to tell what it’s worth until you know for sure what it is.  And then it’s going to be what it’s worth to you because I doubt a long line will be forming at the door to buy it 

[58L-Y8]

14 minutes ago, 29PierceArrow said:

When I was there yesterday I did notice that the vent pipe is aimed directed into the air intake port of the carburetor. Does that recirculate the air back through the carb??

Why would you need to do this?

Suck up the crankcase blow by oil/combustion fumes that were asphyxiating the driver...

[Xander Wildeisen]

Does the engine spin freely?

[29PierceArrow]

Yes engine spins freely.

[classiclines]

The defining feature of the engine appears (to me) to be the top of the engine/head that has the structural reinforcement taper beginning at the radiator connection and extending the entire length.   The taper is not a feature on every car.  On the L29 Cord, the taper only goes half way.  This one goes the whole length.  And, it is different than the taper on the Auburns that quickly rise up to the radiator connection and then taper down the entire length.  Tried Google image search but it's not working (engines are too complicated for AI at this point LOL). 

Edited 9 hours ago by classiclines
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[classiclines]

Found this pic of a 1930 Graham 822 block - from this AACA previous thread:    ...but, just the block, not a fully-configured engine

 

Edited 9 hours ago by classiclines
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[rydersclassics]

Carb looks like a Detroit Lubricator air valve Model 51 style ? 

[classiclines]

The 1930 engine and our unknown engine differ by the items highlighted with the white arrows - not sure the function

[29PierceArrow]

I did notice the white arrow object on the right when I was there. Not familiar to me either.

 

tom

[prewar40]

 

2 hours ago, classiclines said:

The defining feature of the engine appears (to me) to be the top of the engine/head that has the structural reinforcement taper beginning at the radiator connection and extending the entire length.   The taper is not a feature on every car.  On the L29 Cord, the taper only goes half way.  This one goes the whole length.  And, it is different than the taper on the Auburns that quickly rise up to the radiator connection and then taper down the entire length.  Tried Google image search but it's not working (engines are too complicated for AI at this point LOL). 

I'm not sure what this engine is - the 299 big eight has the short radiator connection. The smaller 226 & 247 eight had the long radiator connection. My 1928 Lycoming 8 has the manifold on the drivers side.  I don't think it's a Lycoming engine, I see other things that don't match.

Edited 7 hours ago by prewar40 (see edit history)

[Xander Wildeisen]

This was the engine in my 1931 Auburn 8-98 Cab, going by the tag on the engine. It checked out to be a 1930 Auburn Lycoming 8. Maybe the pictures can help.

[Xander Wildeisen]

4 hours ago, 29PierceArrow said:

Question for you all: 

He's come down some from the $9k. What is this engine and drive train worth knowing I have to spend $20k to rebuild it [according to my engine rebuilder].

I think you first need to know what you are looking at. On the restoration end it needs to be correct, what ever it is? On the custom end, it is a roll of the dice. You will compete in the market with modified cars that are a lot more desirable. If most of the parts can be used in a vintage speedster/race car. then you have to compare it to other like cars. 7-9k for a usable chassis, engine, transmission, rear axle, steering system, fuel system, brake system, cooling system, dash, gauges and wheels. Is a pretty good buy when you add up what you are getting. Part out the rest. sad but true.