BlueDevil Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Here is a rod/piston that has been in Evaporust at the piston end. After an over night Evaporust soak, I ultrasonically cleaned it in Simple Green. You can tell the part of the rod that didn't get soaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Here are how the rings/grooves cleaned up. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Today is tappet day. The tappet bodies are held in place with a tubular sleeve that fits in a counterbore in the block. You cannot remove the tappet block unless you get the sleeves out first. Sleeve in on the block above the tappet in the pic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 To get the sleeve out I first tried an internal pipe wrench but it was a hair too big. I then went to a set of snap ring pliers that push out when the handle is squeezed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Here are the blocks out. Interesting but the tappet galleries are painted the same color as the engine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 In the last picture, notice the 4 x 4 blocks of wood at each end of the block. I drive them in, doesn't take much to wedge them between the head studs, then you have some thing to sit the block on to work on it upside down with out the studs being in contact with the floor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Last moving part is out, the cam. Except for some staining, no pits or obvious wear. It is like someone redid the engine but never ran it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Here is the cam "after" polished up pretty well. Some very light pits. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Cleaned up pistons. All rings freed up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 Valve day. They showed little wear. Used a reciprocating valve grinding tool. Has a paddle that fits in a slot in the valve head and as you turn it goes back and forth. Spring helps lift the valve off the seat to redistribute grinding compound. Nice uniform seats. Also ran a hone and a dingleberry down the cylinders and they are just about perfect. Next I have to clean the block and paint everything. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 I took the water jackets off and was surprised at what I found. The outer plate is aluminum, repro?? and there is the flat aluminum plate under it. Is this factory or ???? All the bolts came right out. Amazing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I would deck the block…….you may end up with sealing issues on the head gasket. I would deck it no more than 10 thousands. Also, put a straight edge on the head…….it’s probably more banana than flat after 95 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 Ed, good points. I did skim the head .010. I will straight edge the block as you suggest. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 Crank, cam and tappers are in main caps next. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Someone spent a lot of time measuring and marking the mains. This says .003 and is upside down, the rest were .002. I don't know if these are factory or just a very careful assembly mechanic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 Put the valves in this morning. Maybe pistons this PM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31 LaSalle Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, BlueDevil said: Put the valves in this morning. Maybe pistons this PM. Looking good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike "Hubbie" Stearns Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 May I make a suggestion. Once the mains and flywheel are installed, install 4 bolts where the bell housing goes. Then stand the engine up on the bolts. You can adjust as needed so it doesn’t rock. This way you have total access to the entire engine minus the area next to the floor. You’ll be able to turn the crank as you install the pistons. As well as preset the valves and timing. Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 Mike, good suggestion. Only problem is you can’t turn the engine over. Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike "Hubbie" Stearns Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 10 hours ago, BlueDevil said: Mike, good suggestion. Only problem is you can’t turn the engine over. Thanks for the input. Yes you can. I use a flywheel turner. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 Mike, Is this what you are suggesting? This is a Packard 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike "Hubbie" Stearns Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Yes. That’s how my dad taught me. We didn’t have an engine stand. It’s how he learned it. Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 Ok, 75 degrees and sunny, time to paint the engine. Before and after 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 Installed the pistons this weekend and came up with a couple hacks on the rear brakes I need to paint some small parts so got a magnet, covered it with paper to mask it and stuck the parts to the magnet. Bolts are really hard to paint so you can put the bolts on end and pant them without having to turn them. Secondly, it s really hard to mount the wire wheels as they used bolts not studs. I got a couple of 9/16 x 20 studs and screwed them in where the wheel bolts go. Hung the wheel on them which lined up the bolt holes, making it easy to get the bolts in. Then remove. Lastly, I have determined there is a rear main seal, even though several of the cutaway drawings don't show one. Part number 51070. 2 pieces. Olson's also include it in their kit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 Ok, which side is the offset side? The manual says: The tongue of the distributor driveshaft, unless it has been removed (it has),is now parallel to the centerline of the crankshaft, with the offset on the side towards the carburetor. Which side? I would think the heavy side, but???? I guess the worse case is your dizzy is 180 out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 I would think the side where your thumb is at. The other side looks more straight across. Put a straight edge along the flats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 18, 2023 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 LC, It looks like you are right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 My friend Jay, just sent me these. How cool is that? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 Finished the brakes today, just need to install the reservoir and bleed them. I think I will have the bottom end finished tomorrow and maybe have the engine back in by the end of the week. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 I wonder does this mean all 227 were to this spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) I tried to use a current Sneaky Pete to install the rear main seal and it was a failure. I looked on e-bay for one of the old style ones with a wire basket end. It arrived today and I had the seal in the car within 15 minutes of it hitting my mailbox. The new one is on the left and the old stock original is on the right with the packaging and the old style has the rope in the basket. Edited November 20, 2023 by BlueDevil (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 Brake master ready to go in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28anut Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I have a 1929 L-80 and have enjoyed following your posts, as I know the engines are similar but not exact. I have never opened my engine, but it appears I have a drippy rear main that I will need to address. I would appreciate if you can include names of part suppliers, part numbers, people you consult, and things I might need to look out for or consider while having my engine open. I really appreciate your posts. Correct part finishes details and other research information is also appreciated. The confidential bulletins were really cool. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 Decided to safety wire the rods and mains. Lot easier than lining up holes for cotter pins and you don’t need to over torque the bolts to get things to line up. Also installed the oil pump. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 Decided to safety wire the rods and mains. Lot easier than lining up holes for cotter pins and you don’t need to over torque the bolts to get things to line up. Also installed the oil pump. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 Put the oil pan on and have it ready to go back in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 It’s in 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike "Hubbie" Stearns Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Now to get it running. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDevil Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 Today was adjust the valves and put the head on day. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike "Hubbie" Stearns Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Love your progress. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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