Rod Frazier Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Finally decided I couldn't stand the chatter anymore, so willing to try a new clutch kit. Problem is I can't find one from any of the normal suppliers. They have them for the smaller series, and I understand a Jeep clutch can be used for them, also, but nothing is available for the 10 1/2 units. I tried Bob's, Carid, Kanter, Ebay, etc. Any more sources I should try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Hi Rod, You might try Pete Phillips. He has some neat stuff. Part # is 1393486 1938 through 1948. Good luck. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Here is where I have been going for my brake and clutch needs for at least 30 years. https://www.rochesterclutch.com/vintage-restoration/ I would avoid anything offered as a "kit". Ala cart will give the best quality from my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Frazier Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said: Hi Rod, You might try Pete Phillips. He has some neat stuff. Part # is 1393486 1938 through 1948. Good luck. Ben Thanks, Ben. Do you have a contact number for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Frazier Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, 60FlatTop said: Here is where I have been going for my brake and clutch needs for at least 30 years. https://www.rochesterclutch.com/vintage-restoration/ I would avoid anything offered as a "kit". Ala cart will give the best quality from my experience. Thanks....Are they primarily rebuilders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Sam will answer the phone. He will rebuild your cores but may have the items right in stock. Yes, no farming out or drop shipping. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 58 minutes ago, Rod Frazier said: Thanks, Ben. Do you have a contact number for him? Pete Phillips 903 436 2851 Pete is the editor of the Bugle, the Buick Club of America monthly magazine. He runs a small restoration shop in east TX,. You probably do not need a pressure plate. Also, chattering is a symptom of bad motor mounts. I bet there is a Driveline, clutch, brake shop in a large town near you [ yeah, I know, you are a thousand miles from anywhere ] that can reline the clutch plate. Ben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) Here is a link from this forum that may help you. see @Justinlb Also as @Ben Bruce aka First Born stated, I would also add to see if oil leaking onto clutch disc and flywheel, flywheel may need to be resurfaced. Look for clutch bearing support clip missing, in bell housing. forums.aaca.org/topic/371854-enclosed-driveshaft-transmission-and-clutch-removal-1940-buick-super/#comment-2304172 Bob Edited May 4, 2023 by NailheadBob update (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Frazier Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 15 hours ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said: Pete Phillips 903 436 2851 Pete is the editor of the Bugle, the Buick Club of America monthly magazine. He runs a small restoration shop in east TX,. You probably do not need a pressure plate. Also, chattering is a symptom of bad motor mounts. I bet there is a Driveline, clutch, brake shop in a large town near you [ yeah, I know, you are a thousand miles from anywhere ] that can reline the clutch plate. Ben Of course....I should have recognized the name. Didn't know he had a shop, though. As to the mounts, I thought maybe the transmission mount was bad, so we put the car on the rack and engaged the clutch quickly ( risky, I know), and there was no excess movement. The motor mounts look fine....could they be bad anyway? Revving the engine doesn't cause movement. By the way, I'm only 200 miles away from the city! But that's a good idea, relining the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Frazier Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 14 hours ago, NailheadBob said: Here is a link from this forum that may help you. see @Justinlb Also as @Ben Bruce aka First Born stated, I would also add to see if oil leaking onto clutch disc and flywheel, flywheel may need to be resurfaced. Look for clutch bearing support clip missing, in bell housing. forums.aaca.org/topic/371854-enclosed-driveshaft-transmission-and-clutch-removal-1940-buick-super/#comment-2304172 Bob Yeah, at this point I'm pretty sure that oil contamination is at least the main culprit, so will try to solve that problem when we've got everything apart, before installing the new or relined clutch plate. May even tackle the rear main! Good tip on the support clip...didn't even know there was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2carb40 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 16 hours ago, Rod Frazier said: Finally decided I couldn't stand the chatter anymore, so willing to try a new clutch kit. Problem is I can't find one from any of the normal suppliers. They have them for the smaller series, and I understand a Jeep clutch can be used for them, also, but nothing is available for the 10 1/2 units. I tried Bob's, Carid, Kanter, Ebay, etc. Any more sources I should try? Suggest you take your clutch with you and ask one of the 'fast food' auto parts stores tell them you want a clutch kit for an early to mid-70s V8 car clutch and just lay your pressure plate on top of new one to see if bolt pattern matches and then one up and one down, sight across to see if it's right height. Or, call The Clutch Doctor in North Branch to confirm it will work. Jeep for 248-263" was approx 125.00 new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, Rod Frazier said: Yeah, at this point I'm pretty sure that oil contamination is at least the main culprit, so will try to solve that problem when we've got everything apart, before installing the new or relined clutch plate. May even tackle the rear main! Good tip on the support clip...didn't even know there was one. If clip missing or broken for clutch bearing support there will be no tension on support against front of transmission and fluid from transmission will leak and get all over clutch assembly Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted "Wildcat65" Nagel Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 When dad needed a clutch for his '38 Cadillac we sent it to https://fortwayneclutch.com/. They shipped it back "done" the next day IIRC. Fantastic service. I've since had them do my Wildcat clutch/pressure plate/flywheel assemblies with excellent results. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Frazier Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Ted "Wildcat65" Nagel said: When dad needed a clutch for his '38 Cadillac we sent it to https://fortwayneclutch.com/. They shipped it back "done" the next day IIRC. Fantastic service. I've since had them do my Wildcat clutch/pressure plate/flywheel assemblies with excellent results. Thanks.....I think I've found a rebuilder a couple hundred miles from here, but I'll keep your suggestion as a backup! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Frazier Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/3/2023 at 6:22 PM, Ben Bruce aka First Born said: Pete Phillips 903 436 2851 Pete is the editor of the Bugle, the Buick Club of America monthly magazine. He runs a small restoration shop in east TX,. You probably do not need a pressure plate. Also, chattering is a symptom of bad motor mounts. I bet there is a Driveline, clutch, brake shop in a large town near you [ yeah, I know, you are a thousand miles from anywhere ] that can reline the clutch plate. Ben Found a NORS clutch disk on EBay. And you think probably I won't need to rebuild or replace the pressure plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Frazier Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 I found a NORS clutch disk, but could use some advice on what to look for when I inspect the pressure plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Rod, if it is a diaphragm one like the smaller engine, not much. I have only seen one face on pressure plates and flywheels scored from rivets on worn clutch discs. The diaphragm is probably ok if it is not cracked. I have heard of cracked ones, never seen one. If nothing is obviously wrong, I would not worry. Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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