STEVE POLLARD

Your first vehicle purchase?

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In the Spring of 1962 I was not yet 14 and my Dad said I could buy a car to work on, if he approved of my choice and I had the money to pay for it. I picked several including T-Birds and Corvettes that I could not afford and my Dad said no. After several of these go arounds I finally asked what he would approve and he said a Crosley might be a good choice, I said what’s that. He already knew where several were (imagine that) and we went out to look at them over the next few days. I picked a 49 wagon for $100. Within a few days of getting it home Dad talked me into taking the body off and store it next door in a neighbor's shed, so I could do a better job doing repairs. He now had control of the finish date since I needed him to help put the body back on. I had set a goal of when I turned 16, he said 17. I didn't really realize how smart he was till later. 

 

I then started a two year frame up restoration (that turned into 3). My father could always slow down progress if he thought I was going to get done to soon by not helping as soon as I needed him on certain parts. My Mother has commented several times over the years about the Summer that her clotheslines were used to hang car parts on to paint. The mechanical part all came together and the body went back on just before I turned 17. A few trips up and down the alley behind the house was the start of my Crosley driving career. It went on the road the summer of 1965 with a paint job using Western Auto spray paint cans. By then I wanted it done so the only body work other then the prep for the rattle can paint job was new sheet metal floors, screwed in with what seemed like hundreds of metal screws.

 

I still have it and it is on jack stands in my shop waiting for me to get busy on the 3rd mechanical rebuild and a new rattle can paint job. But where to buy Western Auto paint?

 

1962 soon after it got home and today. Looking at the old pictures I would have kept it as a survivor but back then I thought new paint was a good idea.

 

 

 

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In 1983 I purchased a 1972 Buick Electra 225 four door hardtop.  Gold with black top and black interior. 

 

I knew the owner and he took care of his stuff.  Loved that car.  I wish that I still had it. 

 

 

 

 

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1987 El Camino that I ordered new (after hand-me-down 1971 Eldorado coupe and 1973 Caprice 454 hardtop).  Pretty cool vehicles for cars number 1 and 2!

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My first car was a hand-down from my parents, a 1961 Dodge Polara 2HT, which I still have.  The first car I purchased was in 1972 when I was 19, a 1970 Dodge Challenger convertible.  Don't get too excited, it is a 318 auto car.  Still have both of them.  I was 20 when I bought my first old car, a 1946 Dodge Business Coupe.  That one got away after I moved it to 4 different cities as my jobs changed and had no time to work on it.

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The winter of 1970 I was 15 and back then you could get a beginner's license at that age. I was bugging Dad as he needed to add me to his insurance and told me if I helped him repair his 1958 Limited that spring he would give it to me and I'd be on the road. So technically I didn't buy it but was smitten with the Buick Bug!

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Thing is I still have it but... it has become a parts donor for an identical twin that I plan to put on the road.

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Once this car is on the road I will disclose that it is not my original but she sure is identical in every way what I used to drive.

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Now as to the first car I bought, I still have it!

I came upon this 1958 Special ragtop (or did it find me?).

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After a 13 year hiatus I have had her back on the road for the past two years.

Took her for a spin just this February 10th on dry roads (to keep her in good running condition 😂).

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My first car died just before it was going to fall apart from rust!  It was a 57 DeSoto 4 door I bought for $200 in 64 from Mr Norm’s Grand Spaulding Dodge on Grand ave in Chicago. The only non-muscle car on the lot. I could pack 4 couples in that car. We had a lot of fun doing that too. 

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First car I ever purchased was a used '75 Camaro.

Guy I sold it to had someone run a stop sign and T-bone him totalling the car but he was OK.

Second car was a '64 Malibu SS Convertible 327/4 speed that I still own.

 

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My dad special ordered a 1959 Pontiac Catalina through the L.A. Zone office. Back in 59 the Catalina was the bottom price leader Pontiac. My dad liked the Bonneville interior, but the Bonneville was 7 inches longer and 200lbs heavier and my dad was going to drag race this this car in AS/A. The car was ordered with a Bonneville interior, sort of a pre Ventura/ Grand Prix. The engine a 4 bolt main, 389 Tri-Power was hand built in the Pontiac tool room like other Factory NASCAR and Drag Racing Engines. The car also came with the Police/Taxi Heavy Duty 4 speed Hydra-Matic that also came with a special in front of the radiator oil cooler. The car was ordered with a 3.08 Posi. and a 3.90 and 4.10 Pumkins came in the trunk. Also in the trunk was a Isky E-2 solid lifter cam and lifters. Pontiac would not sell a car with solid lifters and a warranty-so in the trunk. A car in California would normally have been built in the Southgate Ca. plant, but because of the engine was hand made in Michigan so was the car. A 13 second car at just over a hundred, my dad raced it until 1964, then in 1965 I got my IHRA drag racing license at the age of 14, I also got my regular license at 16 in it. Going to HS with this car and dates and so forth was getting expensive so in August 1968 I bought a 1965 VW Type 111 Standard- European 1200 Custom or "A" Sedan. These cars were never sold in the states and 1200 Customs are very rare in Europe. In November1968 I decided to sell the Catalina, however a large void and the need for speed really bothered me so in the same month of November 1968 I ordered an new 1969 Pontiac LeMans H-O 355, T 400, 3.23 posi.    

  I know now I made a mistake by selling a purpose built race car/ street car, but I still have the LeMans ( which now has a .030 over 455 )  and my 1965 VW. Over 50 years for two cars is a long time. In 1973 I bought a 1964 VW type 113 U.S. Export deluxe that I still have and also In 1976 I also bought/ special ordered a Omega brougham that I still have as well. All great cars that do what they were designed to do.

1965 Type 111 L-360 Seablue;

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1969 H-O Pontiac LeMans;

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1964 VW 113 Deluxe--the one with the fog lamps;

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1976 Oldsmobile Omega Brougham; November issue Hemmings classic car. 115,000 miles original paint, Original Chrome. Original interior, engine never apart, still in it's original paint. Original complete drive train, original P/S pump, Alternator, Carburetor-never been apart, original fuel pump, original air pump, original complete exhaust including Catalytic converter. 3.08 Posi never been apart. Original front calipers, rear brake wheel cylinders and rear shoes.

250 cu. inch Seven main bearing I-6 cylinder, T 350 HydraMatic.

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1966 Impala Super Sport. 327 c.i., 4 bbl, 2 speed auto console shift, bucket seats. It needed exhaust pipes, so I put on duals with glass packs, though I think the car may have come from the factory with a single exhaust system.

 

No, I don't have any pictures, but I still have the factory wheel covers!  I had to have chrome reversed wheels with matching chrome moon caps back then, so the wheel covers were set aside...and thus, saved. I paid 60$ for the wheels...not each, the whole set! New! They were on sale for $15 each because everyone was buying Cragars. I liked chromies instead because I thought they were more "Beach Boys" or something...a little more old school. I paid $200 for that car in 1976, the year I graduated from high school.

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9 hours ago, Pfeil said:

My dad special ordered a 1959 Pontiac Catalina through the L.A. Zone office. Back in 59 the Catalina was the bottom price leader Pontiac. My dad liked the Bonneville interior, but the Bonneville was 7 inches longer and 200lbs heavier and my dad was going to drag race this this car in AS/A. The car was ordered with a Bonneville interior, sort of a pre Ventura/ Grand Prix. The engine a 4 bolt main, 389 Tri-Power was hand built in the Pontiac tool room like other Factory NASCAR and Drag Racing Engines. The car also came with the Police/Taxi Heavy Duty 4 speed Hydra-Matic that also came with a special in front of the radiator oil cooler. The car was ordered with a 3.08 Posi. and a 3.90 and 4.10 Pumkins came in the trunk. Also in the trunk was a Isky E-2 solid lifter cam and lifters. Pontiac would not sell a car with solid lifters and a warranty-so in the trunk. A car in California would normally have been built in the Southgate Ca. plant, but because of the engine was hand made in Michigan so was the car. A 13 second car at just over a hundred, my dad raced it until 1964, then in 1965 I got my IHRA drag racing license at the age of 14, I also got my regular license at 16 in it.  In November1968 I decided to sell the Catalina, however a large void and the need for speed really bothered me so in the same month of November 1968 I ordered an new 1969 Pontiac LeMans H-O 355, T 400, 3.23 posi.    

  I know now I made a mistake by selling a purpose built race car/ street car, but I still have the LeMans ( which now has a .030 over 455 )  and my 1965 VW.

 

 

 

 

 

Does that special-order Catalina still survive?  It would sure be an interesting car to see today at a car show.

 

Craig

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Great thread.  Cannot claim that but two childhood pals still have theirs.  First is my wife's cousin who has a 68 Mustang GTA 390 coupe.  I remember taking the engine to a machine shop for him around 80 or so.  It is being re restored now after decades of sitting.  He is 56 I think, with a goal of driving it before his next birthday.  Second is a 39 Chevy, stock restoration, used continuosly since it was completed around 1980 or so.  He did it all himself except the uphulstory and chrome before age 21, it has won at local shows multiple times.

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3 hours ago, 8E45E said:

Does that special-order Catalina still survive?  It would sure be an interesting car to see today at a car show.

 

Craig

No, but will tell a interesting story. I worked for a major auto importer / manufacturer for 34 years in the engineering dept. Every year we would get pre production or sample cars to evaluate and study. Every year the last years samples would go to the crusher/shredder. The company we used was down in the L.A. harbor area about a 1/2 mile from where the old Lyons Drag strip used to be and where I got my IHRA drag racing license. I found out that the guy who bought the Catalina from me had installed a 421 and had raced it a bit in the early 70's. In 1978 I decided to try and find the car, buy it back and restore it. I had a friend that had access to DMV records and we pulled it up. Unfortunately the car had gone to scrap THREE months before I started looking for it, however we found out that the place that scrapped it was the one I had dealt with for many years for my company, Any road those guys in the office were kind enough to do a print out for me with the serial # day and time it met it's demise. I have a book, more of a picture book with captions and order information on the car and it's roughly 9 year history in my family from day #1 to the end. The last page is that print out from the scrapyard.  

 After that happened I decided that if a car was important enough to me I would never let it go like I did with the Catalina. That's why the special cars to me have survived and are in the above threads pictures. I learned my lesson.

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Thank you for sharing your story.  Sorry to hear about it's demise.  

 

One show that is most interesting is the annual Muscle Car & Corvette Nationals, which brings out the special orders and the oddball cars no one thought any were made.  One of the most interesting cars there last year was this ex-Tennessee State Trooper 1966 Chevrolet sedan, where the trim tag states the painting instructions.

 

Craig

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37 minutes ago, 8E45E said:

Thank you for sharing your story.  Sorry to hear about it's demise.  

 

One show that is most interesting is the annual Muscle Car & Corvette Nationals, which brings out the special orders and the oddball cars no one thought any were made.  One of the most interesting cars there last year was this ex-Tennessee State Trooper 1966 Chevrolet sedan, where the trim tag states the painting instructions.

 

Craig

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That was a long time ago, some you win and some you lose. Your vin tag picture juggled my memory. On special factory orders out of the Zone office Pontiac's like my Catalina also had a S/O ( special order)  tag that's next to the vin/data plate that has a factory code stamped into it. Don't know if the rest of the divisions had that or not.

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2 minutes ago, Pfeil said:

 

 

On special factory orders out of the Zone office Pontiac's like my Catalina also had a S/O ( special order)  tag that's next to the vin/data plate that has a factory code stamped into it. Don't know if the rest of the divisions had that or not.

I believe, maybe with the exception of some Cadillac models, they were all a Fisher body, and the bodies would most likely have shared the same codes.

 

Craig

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First car was a 47 Chev sedan bought for $35 in 1964. Now I have a very similar 42 Chev sedan, it cost considerably more.

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14 hours ago, 8E45E said:

I believe, maybe with the exception of some Cadillac models, they were all a Fisher body, and the bodies would most likely have shared the same codes.

 

Craig

The tag I'm talking about is a metal oval shaped tag that's riveted next to the normal Vin tag on the firewall. Besides the Super Duty cars 1961-1963 I have only seen one other car that had one like my 59 Catalina. When Harley Earl's wife's 1959 Catalina when on the auction block it had one. That car, a 315 Hp Tri-Power 389 also had a Bonneville interior and rear Bonneville tail lamps. It was also painted pink.

 

BTW the numbers on the S/O ( special order ) tag is a code that's interpreted by the factory to make the sure what special things are to be done to the car. It's different than the heavy paper build tag that has all the other options/color etc..   

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I bought this 1941 Cadillac 60 Special Fleetwood in July 1979 (I was 14 years old).  It had around 17,500 miles on it then. I did lots of great AACA and CCCA touring (80,000 miles additional) and it found a new owner in 2015 (who also loves it).

 

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21 hours ago, Pfeil said:

The tag I'm talking about is a metal oval shaped tag that's riveted next to the normal Vin tag on the firewall. Besides the Super Duty cars 1961-1963 I have only seen one other car that had one like my 59 Catalina. When Harley Earl's wife's 1959 Catalina when on the auction block it had one. That car, a 315 Hp Tri-Power 389 also had a Bonneville interior and rear Bonneville tail lamps. It was also painted pink.

 

BTW the numbers on the S/O ( special order ) tag is a code that's interpreted by the factory to make the sure what special things are to be done to the car. It's different than the heavy paper build tag that has all the other options/color etc..   

Yes, I should have thought about your car having a Deviation Tag.  Then your body tag should '999' or '000' for interior trim, I would suspect. 

 

Craig

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Mine was a 1985 VK commodore for $500. Pretty much the same as this one pictured but mine was all white..

 

 

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