kclark Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) I have spoken to wiperman and he said that he can't fix my wiper motor from my 1929 Dictator. It is the cylinder style and not the half moon. So I am looking to see if anyone had a cylinder style that they changed to the half moon trico and how bad the holes lined up. Edited September 26, 2017 by kclark (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kclark Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 Here are photos of mine. Anyone know what kind it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 soooo.... that's the wiper motor? I got one of those in my boxes of parts that came with the 26 standard six. I wasn't sure what it was, I think mines toast thought tooo! terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninman Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Do you have a good picture of when it was still mounted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 no, I don't sorry, the part was in boxes of parts when I bought the car and brought it home. I just looked at my car and wiper motor, it has three holes in the windshield frame, two on the outside for long screws that screw into the center threaded mounting holes, (the left one on yours is broken) then the long stem comes through to the outside to fasten the wiper arm. on the inside of the car the other end of the shaft for the wiper arm has a little stub with a hole through it, I can only imagine that a short pin is in there to operate the wiper with your fingers when your going uphill ( and the engine vacuum is low) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbk Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I have a TRICO-FOLBERTH wiper motor for sale. It is different from yours but maybe it is the original for yours. Robert Kapteyn studebaker@mac.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) If it were me, I would just "have a look at the problem" = take it to pieces to see if there is something I can do to get some function. The repairman might really mean " it will cost more than you are prepared to pay", or "more than a reasonable replacement would cost", i.e. it is probably not economic. Edited September 27, 2017 by Spinneyhill (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kclark Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Spinneyhill said: If it were me, I would just "have a look at the problem" = take it to pieces to see if there is something I can do to get some function. The repairman might really mean " it will cost more than you are prepared to pay", or "more than a reasonable replacement would cost", i.e. it is probably not economic. I have looked into it, it seems pretty simple but I don't know enough about them. The problem it seems is this is very different from what most of you have. I may be wrong, but most are a "standard" trico half moon shape that is mounted inside. I know that there is a piece of the pot metal broke where a bolt goes into that helps attach it to the window frame. I'm looking into possible solutions there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Die cast metal can be welded at low temperature. There are threads where it is discussed, perhaps in the Technical or Restoration Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 If you can look at the seals on the pistons, they can probably be lubricated (or replaced). They may be of similar material to the Trico flapper blades and the same lubrication instructions would apply. It is possible the cylinders are not the same shape as the pistons any more. You may be able to push them back into shape, carefully, with clamps, a jig and boiling water. The boiling water allows the metal to move slowly without breaking, with gradual tightening of the clamps, a little with each jug of boiling water poured over it. I would not be surprised if it has sagged a bit on the mounting bolts after all these years. The metal may also have swollen with age as the zinc in it oxidises, seizing the pistons. That is much harder to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 here are some pics of my windshield frame outside, wiper motor in place from inside the car, the motor on a bench, and an inside and outside view of a trico I had that I showed in place, for my curiosity and yours terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kclark Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Thanks automaschinewerks...If I can't get mine repaired I'll look at installing a Trico. They seem to be more readily available and repairable. Did it fit the existing holes pretty well or was there any modifying that needed done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I put the center stud through the hole, and threaded the chrome nut on just to see that it would fit in. it fits perfect. unless the hole had been drilled larger by a previous owner, I haven't modified it at all. if I would have had to remove original Studebaker material just to take a picture, you wouldn't be looking at it! terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kclark Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 What type of Trico is it that you have? It appears that there a several types that are floating around and I'm not sure if they all have the same hole alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 other than patent numbers there is a '2' in the center of the hump in the casting. I have looked at them on ebay and there does look like there are lots of configurations of them. hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninman Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Automachinewerks, that is almost identical to mine. I don' have any extra holes in my windshield and it looks like it in my owner's manual so I imagine the Trico is original for my GL. Do you happen to have the manual for yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 yes, I do have an owners manual, as well as a part manual reprint. I will check them out tonight. the car I showed in the pics is a '26. I also have more pics in a post I just put up this aft, now that I took some time to get onedrive figured out on my phone. it works really well, and its a bizarre feeling to tap away on my phone and suddenly the pic is on my computer screen. the trico I showed in my pics is a spare I found in a box of auction stuff, I have no idea what car it originally came from. terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbk Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/27/2017 at 7:32 AM, rbk said: I have a TRICO-FOLBERTH wiper motor for sale. It is different from yours but maybe it is the original for yours. Robert Kapteyn studebaker@mac.com The spacing between the two mounting holes 5 9/16" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mribbich@wi.rr.com Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 My inventory shows I have a half moon type for a 1930 Dictator if that helps you for now the original Trico was a FJ-50. 1-262-392-2989 or mribbich@wi.rr.com Marv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kclark Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 I am still in the market for a wiper motor, that is working, for my 1929 Dictator. The one that I had was mounted on the exterior of the windshield. Does anybody have one they can part with or know where I can get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 11/17/2017 at 4:20 PM, kclark said: I am still in the market for a wiper motor, that is working, for my 1929 Dictator. The one that I had was mounted on the exterior of the windshield. Does anybody have one they can part with or know where I can get one? Not sure if it is the same: see the Folberth wiper motor for sale in the Parts for Sale forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussi John 1 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Does anyone know how tp remove the diecast boss on the front of the shaft that the wiper arm attaches to. It appears to have a pin though the boss and shaft, this is proving impossible to remove. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbk Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Yes there is a pin through it to hold it on. Post a picture so I can see the adapter , you probably have to break the old adapter off , remove the pin and install a new adapter. You can try to remove the pin but that seems to be a difficult task, the adapters are very brittle. I have an assortment of different adapters , so if I see your picture ,I can identify it and see if I stock those. Robert Kapteyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussi John 1 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Thanks Robert I was able to remove the pin with my wife holding a piece of timber on the opposite side and tapping the pin out with a punch. It was not easy. As I will be driving the car 3 or 4 thousand miles a year in modern traffic, I will be replacing the wipers with an electric wiper motor and tandem wiper arms. I have done this successfully on two other Studebakers. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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