jframe Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 How in the world does that crazy hook and spring secure the jack in the car? No guide ANYWHERE showing orientation. I have tried several spots for the hook after finally wiggling the jack itself back into its mounts, but nothing seems to secure or tight. Also, does the lug wrench just lay in the floor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera63 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, jframe said: How in the world does that crazy hook and spring secure the jack in the car? No guide ANYWHERE showing orientation. I have tried several spots for the hook after finally wiggling the jack itself back into its mounts, but nothing seems to secure or tight. Also, does the lug wrench just lay in the floor? Here is a picture showing the spring hook and jack. I hold my lug wrench with velcro straps. Others have used rubber bands cut from a bicycle inner tube. Don't feel bad. I struggled with the same thing when I got my car. Looking at the pieces, how hard can it be? I had to ask one of the Riv gurus on how to get mine installed. Hope this helps. Bill Edited September 16, 2017 by Riviera63 edit text (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Riviera63 said: Here is a picture showing the spring hook and jack. I hold my lug wrench with velcro straps. Others have used rubber bands cur from a bicycle inner tube. Don't feel bad. I struggled with the same thing when I got my car. Looking at the pieces, how hard can it be? I had to ask one of the Riv gurus on how to get mine installed. Hope this helps. Bill Thanks, that does help. For starters, I have the jack upside down. Hopefully, I can flip it without having to wiggle it out of the brackets. I'll give it another go tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I used a cut up small bicycle tube into 2 inch strips and slipped them over the jack and slipped the lug wrench into them. To actually remove lug nuts, I resort to a four-way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Something else you can do is to lay it between the tire and the deck surface then tighten the wing nut down to hold it in place. It's out of the way and it won't go floating around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 From the factory, the lug wrench is on the floor right next to the wheelwell on the right side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, RivNut said: Something else you can do is to lay it between the tire and the deck surface then tighten the wing nut down to hold it in place. It's out of the way and it won't go floating around. Something you "CAN" do. Won't slide or rattle around on your way to the show, then you place it where it came from the factory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Of course, if you think you might actually need to use the jack, you should probably be thinking about how to stow a small hydraulic jack as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 15 hours ago, jframe said: How in the world does that crazy hook and spring secure the jack in the car? No guide ANYWHERE showing orientation. I have tried several spots for the hook after finally wiggling the jack itself back into its mounts, but nothing seems to secure or tight. Also, does the lug wrench just lay in the floor? ..from the "anywhere" file: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 11 hours ago, Seafoam65 said: From the factory, the lug wrench is on the floor right next to the wheelwell on the right side Hi Winston, What is the source of your information? Thanks, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Tom I was told this by people who said they were certain of it a couple of times, once on this forum and another long time owner told me this in the Buick Club. I should know for certain since my family bought one of these brand new but after 53 years the memory gets foggy. I have looked for some kind of definitive proof on this but have been unable to document this so far, but I will to continue to search for absolute proof of this. I'm pretty confident that I 'm right on this. Dick Sweeney should know, he's owned these his whole life, but I've never asked him about the jack handle. If anyone would know I think he would. If you mount it under the spare, the tire won't fit under the package shelf on a 65 model, so I don't believe the above picture would apply to a 65. I tried putting it under the spare and it won't fit there. Edited September 17, 2017 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Great info, got the jack in place today! Tom, you always come up with great documentation! One more question; will a reproduction tire cover from Clark's fit a 215/75-15 or 225/75-15 tire? My spare is an old 205/75-15 dated 1986, so it's due for replacement. Thinking about one of the American Classic whitewall radials in either the 215 or 225/75 sizes, with the 1.3" whitewall. Just don't see any sense in ordering a cover if it won't stretch around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera63 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, jframe said: Great info, got the jack in place today! Tom, you always come up with great documentation! One more question; will a reproduction tire cover from Clark's fit a 215/75-15 or 225/75-15 tire? My spare is an old 205/75-15 dated 1986, so it's due for replacement. Thinking about one of the American Classic whitewall radials in either the 215 or 225/75 sizes, with the 1.3" whitewall. Just don't see any sense in ordering a cover if it won't stretch around it. When I got my car I bought 5 new 225/75-15 for my car. I regretted getting that size for the spare. In my 63 it was a bear to get to fit on the shelf. I finally followed the advice of a fellow forum member and let the air out of the spare and carried a small electric portable compressor. That helped but, it was still pain to get in. I finally went out and got a good used tire of a smaller size. It slid in very easily and I didn't have to climb into the trunk to get it to it as I did before with the larger size. I figured the tire would not stay on that long if I did get a flat so a used, smaller tire won't matter. With the cover on you can't tell. I had the half cover from CARS and it fit the larger size but, with a struggle and looked OK. With the smaller spare the cover also goes on much easier and has a better fit and look. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 91 - 96 full sizes Buick Roadmasters, Chevrolet Caprices, and Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser station wagons have a 5 on 5 bolt pattern and carry a space saver spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Seafoam65 said: Tom I was told this by people who said they were certain of it a couple of times, once on this forum and another long time owner told me this in the Buick Club. I should know for certain since my family bought one of these brand new but after 53 years the memory gets foggy. I have looked for some kind of definitive proof on this but have been unable to document this so far, but I will to continue to search for absolute proof of this. I'm pretty confident that I 'm right on this. Dick Sweeney should know, he's owned these his whole life, but I've never asked him about the jack handle. If anyone would know I think he would. If you mount it under the spare, the tire won't fit under the package shelf on a 65 model, so I don't believe the above picture would apply to a 65. I tried putting it under the spare and it won't fit there. It fits under the original spare in my 38K mile `65 GS ? Tom Edited September 17, 2017 by 1965rivgs (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 17 hours ago, jframe said: Great info, got the jack in place today! Tom, you always come up with great documentation! One more question; will a reproduction tire cover from Clark's fit a 215/75-15 or 225/75-15 tire? My spare is an old 205/75-15 dated 1986, so it's due for replacement. Thinking about one of the American Classic whitewall radials in either the 215 or 225/75 sizes, with the 1.3" whitewall. Just don't see any sense in ordering a cover if it won't stretch around it. I have never purchased the repro tire cover so I dont know the answer to your question? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 14 hours ago, 1965rivgs said: It fits under the original spare in my 38K mile `65 GS ? Tom Therein probably lies the answer. Only with the factory skinny bias ply can the jack handle fit under the wheel, so starting in about 1973, people were forced to put it somewhere else and on the floor by the jack was the most logical place. I'm going to put the correct skinny tires on my car next year and if the jack handle will fit under the spare as you say, that's where I'm going to put it. It's odd that there is no mention of placement of the handle in the owners manual or in the jacking instruction decal under the deck lid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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