Guest Steve c g Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Picked up at auction don't like to see old iron go to scrap. Not sure of this part it is very heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm wondering if it's part of a Delco Light generator. Could you post a few more photos of a few other sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) I could be wrong but I believe this is an early Buick starter.Just found this: http://forums.aaca.org/f170/delco-starter-generator-what-does-fit-296391.htmlHoward Dennis Edited January 20, 2015 by hddennis (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 You're right and I'm wrong, Howard. It looks like a Delco starter-generator from an early 20's Buick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve c g Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm wondering if it's part of a Delco Light generator. Could you post a few more photos of a few other sides?Yes I will try to show other pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Is that the distributor on the right in #2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve c g Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I am trying to load another picture but it seems that any basic computer skills I had must have vanished over mightyes it does have what I would say is a distributor on the side. There is a rotar on the center shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve c g Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Here's a very similar type starter-generator on a 1922 Buick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve c g Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Yes that's it or darn close. I worked on trying to clean area above patent plate to find numbers (stamped in housing) maybe something there but very faint.There is casting numbers on back Side were it bolts to block.So this a starter/ generator as 1 unit. With one gear on end of shaft to engage flywheel to start motor, how did shaft keep turning to generator because after starting the gear kicks out or not????As a member of a local antique tractor and gas engine club any old parts I find at auction is a find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cben09 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 As the starter slows down,,foot off starter pedal,,the over-running clutch picks up the load and turns the armature at a slower speed,,,,speed of the front shaft,,Hope this helps,,,Cheers,,Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve c g Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Thanks for help on the identification and the workings of it. This starter was pulled out of a barn at auction and seems to have straw and dirt inside. Well barn mice need a home also. Is there any market for this part but would have to get refurbished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 You could sell it as is to the owner of the appropriate Buick. Let them worry about refurbishing. I don't know that model, but most starter/ generators had a planetary gear set in them. When the starter was driving, it was geared down. When the shaft drove the armature it was direct drive.You probably know that a starter will act as a motor and vise versa. They had 2 sets of brushes to change from one to the other and the appropriate switches and connections. The armature and field coils served both functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binger Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 1914 was the first year for a unit like that on a buick. The unit on my '22 is a bit different but it is a 6-cyl. I believe oldsmobile ran units like that back then too. Many cars ran units like that I would imagine. Who knows about rebuilding them? My '22 has worn brushes and a badly worn armature. It charges fine but will not turn the engine over when the starter pedal is pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 You probably know that a starter will act as a motor and vise versa. (quote from Rusty O'toole)I think Rusty means to say, "A starter (motor) will act as a generator and vice versa". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Thanks, meant to say a generator will act as a motor and vice versa. Most of us have "motored" a generator on the work bench to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 There should be a 3 digit number stamped above the brass plate Just above the word DISCONNECT. I am looking for a #283 for my 1925 Buick standard. I do have a list somewhere that identifies what # fits what year/model car. I shall look... If not my number I have some other Buick buddies who may need it. Larry DiBarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve c g Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 To dibarlaw yes will look for that number was cleaning area off the other day and saw some kinda markings but hard to see I will get cheaters and see what I can a little soapstone dust does wunders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve c g Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Above the brass plate reading left to right. 2.5 51395 to the best that I can tell that's the numbers it sure looks like a dot between the 2 and 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Many times a very rusty case will obliterate these stamped numbers The Buick starter generator 3 digit numbers have no 5 as the 3rd digit. Before 1917 these had 2 digit #s such a D-70 for 1916-1917 Buick model D44/D45. The numbers on the left were for model ID of unit. The right hand numbers are the serial number. All the Buick S/G I have seen. The unit I have on my 1925 Buick Standard Model 25 is 283 124278. I have 2 somewhat gutted S/G with #s 283 50046 and 283 33786. I can't really make a good spare one out of the 2 combined. The only # close is 251 for the 1923 4cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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