Guest osunset Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm new to this forum and am considering purchasing a 1965 Riviera in great condition with original 455 Wildcat engine and transmission with only 23,500 miles...cant confirm if the odo rolled over or not, but based on the condition of the interior and exterior of the vehicle it appears to be low miles. I'm curious as to the value...any ideas? Here are a few pics:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 That's a 401 nailhead engine, not a 455. Don't know what it's worth, but a bunch, I'll wager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest osunset Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 your correct about the engine...it came as standard on the '65 as a 401 nailhead...the "wildcat 445" label indicated torque foot pounds rather than displacement..kinda confusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The '65s definitely command a premium, perhaps as much as 20%. I have two '63s for sale at about $23,000, and sold a gorgeous '65 two years ago for about $32,000. I have an all-original '65 coming in shortly that I will probably price at $29,900. Prices on these are definitely on the move and I put these cars on my short list of cars that will be worth more in five years than they are today. They aren't going to rocket you to riches, but you can buy one today, enjoy it for a few years, and probably make a few bucks on it when the time comes to sell. They are not $12,000 beaters anymore. Everyone has been predicting a big rise for these cars and this might be the beginning of it, or perhaps it's just going to be a modest appreciation, but they're definitely moving up. This is in stark contrast to 90% of the market which is stagnant.This is the 1965 I sold for $32,000-ish a few years ago: These are the two 1963s I have for sale:Great cars and if you can get that one for $27-30,000, I think you'll do OK.Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Mr. 58Mustang is right about the engine. For whatever reason,the "Wildcat 445" engine was named, like some other Buick engines, after its torque output of 445 foot-pounds. It was 401 cubic inches,produced 325 (gross) horsepower, required premium fuel, and wasthe standard engine that year for the Riviera.If anyone is thinking that the odometer's low-mileage reading justifiesa higher price, I would ask for documentation of the mileage: years of past repair records, etc. When cars are totally restored, ownerssometimes set the odometer back to zero. Someone dishonest couldalso have set the odometer back.According to the Old Cars Report Price Guide, widely used in the hobby,#1 condition is listed as $33,000; #2 as $23,100; #3 as $14,850.The scale goes all the way down to #6.Condition #1 is a perfect trailered show car, a national award winner.#6 means good only for disassembly for parts.You may know these conditions, so I'll spare the explanation unless you want more information.There are on-line price guides at Hagerty (antique-car insurance co.)and at NADA (www.nada.com). According to NADA's printed book, their prices are for ORIGINAL (unrestored) cars, and their prices are aboutthe highest you would see in the several guides available.Even though I think it's a buyer's market for many cars, it might not surprise meif the owner is asking well above what a car is worth. Edited September 12, 2014 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Mr. or Miss O'Sunset, if you're within a few states' drive,you should consider coming to the Hershey (Penna.) car corralOctober 8-11. There should be 1000 antique cars for sale,and Matt (above) will likely be there with an interesting car or two or three!There's no place like Hershey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest osunset Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm considering a trade for a 1967 project car that is completely dissassembled and 90% complete (minus exhaust and some interior parts) It is a PHS documented sport coupe with numbers matching 400 engine a turbo 400 tranny with factory A/C. The engine was completely overhauled in 2010. It has its share of rust in the quarters and floor boards, but is certainly restorable...I placed my GTO value at 15k plus....wondering if I should proceed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Proceed Edited September 13, 2014 by 58Mustang (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If you're trading a project car for that Riv, straight across, no cash involved, TAKE IT AND RUN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If you're trading a project car for that Riv, straight across, no cash involved, TAKE IT AND RUN.Like he said and don't look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37_Roadmaster_C Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Sign the titles, transfer the registration, insure the beast and step on the gas .Quickly .................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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