cahartley Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I have the Dodge Bible but this issue is only addressed thusly: "Remove oil pan and see the felt oil retainer strip is glued to the rear bearing cap. This felt should never be installed in the trough at the rear of the oil pan.Old type crankshafts do not have an oil slinger and this type of shaft is equipped with a cork oil retainer, one half being in the oil pan and other half in the block......etc:"My car has engine #A131422 with the 3 main block and I saw no evidence of a cork or slinger and fail to understand how a piece of felt glued to the bearing cap stops anything if it isn't squeezed into place somehow....... :confused: I'm all ears because we had the pan off today for another issue anyway but oil still drips off the shoulder bolts....... :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I did put in a new one when I had the pan off and (to my amazement) it doesn't leak. I took a photo of the original and it didn't leak either. I used grey Permatex silicone on the corner when I replaced it but I can't remember how I held it in place while it dried... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Mike........that main looks different than the one in my car.......seems the one in mine is a lot larger....... :confused: ......is yours a 5 main bearing engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 3 main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Thanks Mike.......my helper wants to take off the pan again tomorrow which is fine with me.If we have to pull the cap that's fine too but I want this leaking to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1925tourer Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Hi, I use 3 drops of super glue. cork or felt is ok. make sure bearing cap grove is clean. I still seem to have the odd drip most of my oil come from the engine mount at front and runs down under then drops down and makes the car look like it is leaking everywhere. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26Willys Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Does your crankshaft have the sharp flange behind the rear journal? It's just visible behind the felt in Mike's picture. That is what slings the oil. I have my pan off right now and can get you some pictures if you need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Thanks guys.......the pan should be off again shortly when we see what's what.Any additional photos will be helpful.Not only for me but for anyone else with this annoying problem....... :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cahartley Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 THANKS for that!NOW I see what the felt does........it prevents oil from coming out the FRONT of the bearing keeping the oil within the drain recess.Just looking at in the engine made so sense at all....... :confused:Excellent information........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 The pan is coming off again as I type but I forgot to post a tip I hope will be helpful.The hardest part of the whole job is getting the oil level rod "threaded" through the block while trying to get the oil pan in place....... :mad:I wised up and, last time, soldered a length of thin wire to the top of the rod.My buddy stuck the wire through the hole so I could pull the rod through and the pan was on lickety split....... Removing one tie rod pin and swinging the tie rod out of the way makes removing and installing the oil pump a snap too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 If the oil level rod is supposed to give a guide as to how much oil is in the pan, it can be misleading. I only speak from my own experience but the level was reading full when less than 3 1/2 quarts drained out. The manual states that between 5 and 6 quarts are required. Anyone else noticed this?Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Hi Ray, when I changed the oil last month and put 5 quarts in, the rod came up to about 5/8 of the distance between hi/lo marks. After running it a little it's still there. What does yours read when you add the new fill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) I added 5 quarts of oil and the rod showed just below the halfway casting indicators.We found the outer rear section of the pan that forms the oil collection well was cracked so shined up the inside and soldered it figuring now it CAN'T leak........but it DOES.STILL dripping oil off the *&^%^&*(*&^&* square head bolts........grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :mad:And to answer the question from 26Willys the crankshaft DOES have the integral oil slinger. Edited June 8, 2014 by cahartley (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Sorry, guys - I made a mistake in reading off the level. It was lower than I thought. I put in 1 gallon and the rod comes about 3/4 way between the two casting indicators. I expect each engine may be slightly different. One more quart and that should do it. Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 It may be some rods are shorter than others... ahem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeC5 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Apologies... it was just too tempting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert b Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Apologies... it was just too tempting...I hope all of you remember that their is a great deal of differance between English and American quarts. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I hope all of you remember that their is a great deal of differance between English and American quarts. BobCome on, Bob..... Please elaborate! Presumably American pints and gallons are also different? I've completely forgotten about this.:confused: Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 http://home.clara.net/brianp/usa.htmlThis would explain everything. It's not the measuring rods which are different but like Bob pointed out, it's the difference between English and American gallons. The only excuse I have is that my school days were a very long time ago and this is the first time I have ever needed this particular lesson. It's a lesson well learned! Thank you Bob.Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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