1910Hupp Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Stan Howe sent me this photo of mine (On the left) and Phil's Breeze Carbs in his shop for rebuilding.Not surprisingly he feels that he won't have two Breezes in his shop at the same time again in a hurry. Interestingly enough they look slightly different- so must have changed slightly throughout production -Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I've owned four Breeze carbs for the early Hupp, and each one has been slightly different, so yes, Karl, I agree that there were some ongoing changes.....there's a good bit of negative criticism about their performance, but the one on my car has always worked well, the carb just needs to be flooded for starting purposes....and the one on the car is the only one left.....I bought one of the carbs just to get the "Breeze" inline strainer, which I believe is more rare than the carb.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The carbs look identical, but 15% different in size. I wonder if all the passages and orifices are identical. Also, are the tubes in base different sizes (ie; where they fit into the manifold)? Ken tells me the hole in his manifold is 17/32" diameter.Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1910Hupp Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 I suspect the size difference is just perspective ie the carb on the right is closer than mine on the left. Certainly the carburettor bolts up to the inlet manifold with everything lining up perfectly. Also if my carburettor was much bigger it wouldn't fit on the manifold as the bottom intake would foul on the J portion of the manifold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 That makes sense, Karl, though maybe the export Hupps were 15% smaller for ease of shipping!Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1910Hupp Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 That makes sense, Karl, though maybe the export Hupps were 15% smaller for ease of shipping!PhilMan would you believe it first of all they quote 20 hp and only really deliver 16.9 HP and then they chop 15% more off for us colonials ~ ! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbking Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 In addition to being original equipment on Hupp cars, marine engines, and Avery tractors (and maybe others); Breeze offered several different aftermarket models in several different sizes.Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1910Hupp Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 I guess the question is were are they all now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbking Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I guess the question is were are they all now?My guess would be a goodly portion of them were made into artillery casings about 70 years ago.Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max BURKE Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 G,day Huppers. No doubt David could tell us the variations that apply to the Breeze from his booklet. We find todays setting may need a slight change of main jet needle setting tomorrow ,on the other hand it may be good for months. The Schwebler people were aware of this and produced a replacement manifold for their carburettor adaption to the Hup 20. John Burke saw one at Bakersfield last year but tuff luck for us it had sold early on. The Breeze carbs had been replaced on our cars with Kingston and Holly units and the manifolds cut off. This may have been so that the Breeze bowl could be dropped down without taking off the carb. In making the Breeze work on our engines again, after replacing the manifold I made six different venturi tubes and tried each one with different air valve springs. I even made air valves of different weight and tried them on the road before a satisfactory result was achieved. Little wonder the first thing Hup repairers did was turf off the belly plate. Edgar's research can probably tell us the time of the major changes, like side draught over updraught ( if any of these were fitted after the first few cars) and the larger air valve assembly. Bill Cuthbert wisely confided to me that it is unreliable to date Hup from the teens by mechanical parts as when a supplier delivered to Hup and the consignment was placed in the stores. the assemblers tended to use the easier to get parts first so when older supply was discovered in the stores these cars were sent to Australia, New Zealand and South Africa . Certainly Buick and others did the same. .By the way ,the interesting little cast marks on various components tell who the supplier was. I did have a full listing of these trade marks and who made what parts for Hup, Some are common to Whiting and Little, so if your clutch hub or conrod is different to your neighbours this is why. Keep Hupping along. Max BURKE Nulkaba 2325 Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1910Hupp Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Interesting Max -What does the " H I" cast on some cylinder blocks and components pertain to? Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max BURKE Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 G,day to all, Sorry Karl but I seem to have misplaced my list of the trade marks . Yes I do know the cast H designation but what it means I cant say at the moment. Are you coming over for the Hup rally starts 31 October in Ballarat. Talk to your neighbours George Page and Alf O Sulivan. They are sure to be coming over. Happy hupping Max BURKE Nulkaba 2325 Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1910Hupp Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Sorry Max perhaps next year I'll get there -Am in Cairns at the end of September for a week with friends.I was hoping to go via Gympie and meet Edgar but I think Gympie is still a long way from Cairns!-Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenHupp20 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I was away when this was first posted. Thought I'd share this photo, sorry none for sale at this time . Kenbtw, all the credit goes to my late uncle's tireless search for Hupp parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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