Guest pq55 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Hi, i got this motor out of a barn last week and wonder what it is, it got an auto-lite magneto model G-A, a fuller transmission and cast valve cover and oïl pan. the frame horn are brass.Thanks for your help.Pat Edited September 17, 2013 by pq55 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 More likely a light truck I think, although I don't know what sort. Are there any numbers on the engine, either a stamped engine number or a casting date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Cars with Auto-Lite GA generator with Connecticut ignition:Allen 1914-15 1918-19Jackson 1916Overland 1915-18I believe the Overland engine was a flathead which rules out the most likely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pq55 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 There is no number or logo except cast part #, each part has a number starting with X and 3 digit.the bellhousing is X222.Even the hubcap are plain.It might be a light truck like nvcarned said because the frame is regular c channel.ThanksPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pq55 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Went back and found this radiator and two hard rubber Wheel.They said they have a big rearend at an other location, that could be for it.Now what i gonna do with this?Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'd call that a happy ending and you did it yourself. Good luck in the disposition of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Panhard trucks used Buda engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Interesting result. Panhard is a famous name in motoring history but I don't think this Panhard has anything to do with the French original. With only 192 cubic inches it would not have been a ball of fire performance wise. Being on solids it is probably geared for about 20mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cben09 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The article is dated after 11-11-11-18 Armistace,,Company in Mich,,,This should be an interesting research projectPanhard did have warehouse/office in NYC earlier,,taking advantage of their win of the first Vanderbilt race in 1904,,Cheers,,Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Smith & Mabley in New York City (who were later behind the Simplex) were the Panhard agents. I had the wreck of an early Panhard (pre-1900) years ago. The 2 cylinder Phoenix engine was missing, but it came with a literally NOS ca. 1903 4 cylinder engine, almost certainly from S&M. It had atmospheric intake valves and was fitted for igniters rather than spark plugs. It still had a part number painted on the crankcase!The article even says its made by "Hamilton Motors" so I'm certain it had nothing to do with the French company. As an odd twist to this... In the Pre-WWI era magazine fiction writers and newspapers seldom used the name of a domestic car in articles or stories, probably because using one might offend all the others and they were always looking for advertising. As a result, the most common car mentioned was a "Panhard" specifically because there were so few of them, and they were so expensive and sold in a very limited circle, yet the name was well known and associated with racing. I suspect Hamilton motors was trying to cash in on a popular notion that the Panhard was very exclusive etc... Edited September 17, 2013 by JV Puleo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Did you see this dated 1919 with the add shown? You may have the very last one! Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pq55 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Panhard trucks used Buda enginesNot in 1 1/2 ton , This engine was made by Gray.Interresting enough i also bought a Gray Hit and Miss at the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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