Guest sky1928 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I recently ran across a "Barn Find" mid teens Oneida truck. It appears to be a 1-2 ton. Decent cab and frame, but no bed. How popular are these trucks? What would be the value and how hard are parts to find?Any advice is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Wow, Do you have any other pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim_Edwards Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I recently ran across a "Barn Find" mid teens Oneida truck. It appears to be a 1-2 ton. Decent cab and frame, but no bed. How popular are these trucks? What would be the value and how hard are parts to find?Any advice is greatly appreciated.Obviously a very rare find. Oneida Motor Truck Company was a Greenbay, Wi. company that built trucks between 1917 and 1931. They were primarily a manufacturer of stake side trucks and were reasonably successful as a manufacturer of buses. Obviously with only a 14 year production history parts may be hard to come by. Determining what engine it has in it may be the clue to how hard parts might be to find. If its a Continental or other popular engine of the time might be a piece of cake parts wise.This is a link to some of their advertising:truck ads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sky1928 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Larry and Jim,Thanks for the replies. I have been doing a bit of research, but have not found much pertaining to how many still exist. I do have a few more pictures, but they are not too good considering that the barn was packed full of other goodies and clear shots were not possible. I will have another chance to see the truck in a few weeks and possibly look it over better. I will also find out if it has a title.I will post more pictures and stay in touch. Does anyone know what a fair price would be?Best Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 As usual, a good price is what a willing seller and willing buyer will make the exchange at. Seriously, I think trucks are really cool, but they do not bring as much money as cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bofusmosby Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Just from the one photo, she looks pretty good. Is this photo a good representation of the rest of the truck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sky1928 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Bofusmosby,No, the picture you posted looks very nice. This truck needs work, but has potential. There are no rust-through areas and the paint is faded, but appears original. Some glass is missing/broke and the light lenses are missing. Steering wheel is incomplete. That's about all.Best Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doug Rabas Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 I own a 1920 Oneida truck, it is complete and was used by my family in parades circa 1960 and ran well, one water leak at water pump. Has been stored inside on blocks until present. This truck was appraised by an agent for The Neville Public Museum, Green Bay, WI in or about 1985 valued 'as is' $16,000, valued professionally restored $32,000. Hope this might be helpful. I would interested in any information, history about Oneida trucks and their manufacture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sky1928 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Hi Doug,Thanks for the reply. The research I have found to date is not very much. It appears only a few are around. Do you have any pictures you could eMail me? at lamberty586@comcast.netI would like to see some pictures of another one to see what they look like, hopefully more complete than this one. This truck has only the cab, on what appears to be a partically restored frame. I still have not found out if the owner has a title, but will be in touch with him over the winter.If I find out any more information, I will definitely share it with you. Stay in touch. Are you located in Wisconsin?Best Regards and Merry Christmas!Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Truck Lady Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Hi all! I reached out to Paul regarding the barn find Oneida and with his help was able to purchase the truck. We are currently researching and restoring it. The Oneida Motor Truck company is very dear to me because my great grandfather started the company. I started a Facebook page about the restoration, although I haven't kept up with it but there is a good video of the first look at the truck. I'm hoping to be at the Iola WI swap meet this year to look for needed parts. @1928OneidaTruck Home 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 There is an Oneida in the Natmus Museum in Auburn. Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The thing about the smaller more obscure makes like Oneida is they were usually assembled trucks. That means they bought engines, frames, axles, wheels, brakes etc from outside suppliers and assembled them into a truck. If you can find out what engine etc they used it can make finding parts easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 An Oneida truck sold in 2004 at the Chet Krause sale by Aumann Auctions. Chet found it in Green Bay in new condition. Apparently built for the WWI effort but never made it into service so it was, virtually, brand new. I believe the odometer showed 27 miles at auction time. Chet would liked to have paraded it more but it did not have an impulse magneto and he didn't want anyone to break their arm starting it so I retrofitted an impulse to the magneto which took care of that issue. It ran like a top too. It sold for $10,500 plus a buyers premium and went to Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Truck Lady Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) I think Chet has shown it at the Iola show and I'm going to reach out to his family as well . Ours actually has a Waukesha XA motor with a distributor (instead of a magneto) and an electric start button. Edited February 19, 2018 by Oneida Truck Lady Spelling (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 It's no use trying to ask what little family is left. They won't know anything and Chet passed away in 2016. I can't believe it's been that long already. http://www.voiefuneralhome.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=3763168&fh_id=12037 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 As already mentioned above, Oneidas were "assembled" (as were a lot of period cars)...the Coachwork entry is incomplete, as old catalogs show Wauks in the later years (the Coachwork site is a veritable mine of information)... OneidaTruckLady--that Wauk series (X,,XA,,XAH, ) are all listed in old catalogs for early IH trucks, in case you're not already aware, and were extensively used as free standing power units as well as in gensets, pumpsets, combines etc...there's also a lesser popular XAK... The online car and truck specs list the the various vendors, but you have to go to old catalogs etc to find actual model numbers to learn if your engine, transmission etc was a then popular model or bad news as a low production unit... Cont'ls, Hercs and Wauks are bad enough, but Hinkleys...altho Diamond T used them, so it's not hopeless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 ONEIDATRUCKLADY: Would you be kind enough to advise what you know of your year-model?? I find an array of 4cyl Wauks in Oneidas in my old catalogs, but no XA..a classic illustration of how spotty and incomplete these parts catalogs are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Truck Lady Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 We thought it was an early model but the VIN plate says 1928. The good thing is that with such spotty records, we can get by with vintage parts from the era. But they still have to fit in the same space which can also be an issue. As we go through the truck, we have found evidence of either maintenance or previous restoration issues as parts were put in incorrectly. I do wonder about the engine because it does not really fit between the engine mounts on the frame, but it may have also been in an accident because the frame is tweaked on one side. I've been searching through other forums for the parts we either need to replace or remake, so any resources are wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Truck Lady Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I saw Chet's obituary and am saddened that I won't be able to talk to him. Does anyone know what happened to his Oneida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I know it went to Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) From Finland car collector Raul Valkila´s(brockway) flickr gallery. More protection for the driver than usual - - - nice logo! Edited February 23, 2018 by jeff_a (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Truck Lady Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The truck has a whole host of problems, but miraculously all of the original glass in the windows and doors was there and unbroken. We were worried about the driver's door window, but it had fallen inside the door but was still there and whole. Also amazing is the condition of the roof. Although the seat was destroyed by squirrels/mice/other rodents, the cotton batting in the roof was pristine and after gently wiping off years of barn dirt, the vinyl roof only had one minor nick near a corner. Currently looking for some of the more obscure bearings for the rear diff, I have no idea how to find replacements for some the the felt, leather and cork seals, the small headlight lenses have been unobtainium so far, and am hoping to find a good place locally to recondition the leaf springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Truck Lady Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I spent some long hours searching through Ancestry's Newspaper archive and have found some great articles about what the company did to promote itself in the early years. Hope to put it all together one day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Oneida Truck Lady said: The truck has a whole host of problems, but miraculously all of the original glass in the windows and doors was there and unbroken. We were worried about the driver's door window, but it had fallen inside the door but was still there and whole. Have you ever seen how a plate glass window breaks?....... You can shave with the shards.......assuming you're still alive....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 ONEIDATRUCKLADY: My apologies for late reply, and also if this all old news: Mroz and Motor Worlds 1927 stats show after 1924 reorganization the line was A9---omitted by Mroz, 11/4T on 27 Ststs, 36x5 rears...Mroz states earlier As 1T, implies 130WB B9---2T per Mroz, 13/4T in 27 stats, 144WB, 36x6 rears C9---21/2T, 160 WB, 36x7 rears D9---3`1/2T, 170 WB, 36x10 rears E9---5T, 180WB, 40x illeg rears...once we have the model, original engine info may be available. One must always remember these assembled truck makers often offered engine etc options, or would install whatever the customer insisted upon...combined with the temptation to repower an old truck with something handy, it complicates restoring originality... The various online stats (Automobile, Motor truck etc) will give maker of various components but no specific model; but info can sometimes be found in old parts catalogs so you know whether your piece likely to still be around... I generally didn't put trim etc on my parts list 9most of which is now sadly dated) but do have oldcarlenses.com for lenses... My 16-26 New Departure catalog only shows Oneida up to 1924??; don't know if a later catalog might include the rest... justoldtrucks.com has a list of suppliers on their Vendors and Restoration Services section...with sympathy, Bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneida Truck Lady Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Thanks Bud! I've reached out to oldcarlenses and have been using justoldtrucks to find some good suppliers. Slowly but surely, it will all come together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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