Guest soldier Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I need two rear axle outer nut lock washers for my 1931 Buick series 50(late with closed drive shaft ). I think they should have an inner tab for the keyway slot, and be made to bend over on the flats of the nuts. They were not there on my car. One drum/hub was already working loose. Good way to lose a wheel. Any help, or leads would be appreciated. Thanks, Soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Engle Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I never was able to find any for my 32 Buick. I hand made a pair for my use. I have watched for somea Hershey, but never found any the correct size. Modern standard washers are not the correct size either. I used a piece of sheet metal and a lot of time on the bandsaw cutting out the shape.Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trp3141592 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Hi,This sounds like the same item I have looked for for my LaSalle. The washer is oblong and is notched at the two ends to go either side of ridges cast into the hub. For installation, one end is bent inwards with the slot at the end spanning the ridge on the hub to prevent the washer from rotating. The other end gets driven down on to the nut to keep it from backing off. This makes a mechanical barrier to the nut backing off.I have never seen one available for sale, anywhere. Has anyone checked Bob's to see if he offers them? Shouldn't be too hard to make a few, though. Producing more than a handful would require a punch and die for the blank. GM mechanics likely tossed used ones away and replaced them with new ones like we might go through simple steel lock washers. However, a standard lock washer will not work safely and reliably on the axle nut. As Soldier said above, good way to lose a wheel.Why GM didn't stay with the tried-and-true tabbed washer, cotter pin, and castle nut is likely best answered by the Ghosts still haunting the cost-cutting department. They may have saved 3 cents this way...--Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Tom is right. I have never found them either. I have scoured fastener suppliers too. This would be a good item for one of the restoration suppliers to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbbuick22 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Hi, I have a box of those washers but I need to know the size, a pic would also help. JB Sherborn MA22-6-55 Sport Touring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 For a 29 Buick large series.....ID is 1 1/8" OD is 1 5/8" between the tabsTabs are 2 1/4" OD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbbuick22 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Jerry, I have several that measure; ID 1 1/8, OD 1 3/4, and od w/tabs 2 1/4 Send pm if you can use them. JB22-6-55 Sport Touring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest soldier Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 JB, My 1931 series 50 has a 1" dia. shaft. Sounds like what you mentioned is for a large series and may be like Mark shows in his picture. Would you happen to have one in that box for a 1" shaft? Thanks, Soldier/Jerry Saunders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trp3141592 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 hi,Wow--this is not at all like what I am familiar with. When I get home tonight I'll photo and post what I have on my car, and y'all can tell me if it's what you need for your '31.A picture IS worth a thousand words.--Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbbuick22 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Jerry, I have several that look just like the ones in Marks pic. and are for a 1" shaft. There are sizes from 3/4 to 2 1/4. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trp3141592 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hi,Here's the GM axle nut lock washer I was referring to. This one is off the 1940 LaSalle. Dunno if your 1931 Buick used the same or not. I have never seen either style part available anywhere. Has anyone seen this style, and does it apply to Buick??--Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Those would be much easier to make.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryVan Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Try the following link to a lockwasher supplier. If they won't sell directly ask for their distributor near you.Whittet-Higgins Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryVan Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Or, try these folks;Maryland Metrics: MB lock washersCheck out the MB6 washer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryVan Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Or,J.W. Winco, Inc. - Metric Size, Bearing Lock Washers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest soldier Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 JB, Sounds like you may have what I need. Let me know if I can buy them. Thanks, Jerry Saunders <iowahawkeyes32@peoplepc.com> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest soldier Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 JB, It sounds like you may have what I need. Let me know what it will take for me to get two for a 1" shaft. Thanks, Jerry Saunders iowahawkeyes32@peoplepc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Engle Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 When I looked at the metric washers for my 32 Buick, I found that when I got one to fit the shaft, the inner key lock was short and not a good fit to the keyway. Also the outer diameter was not large enough to give a good fold up along the flat of the nut. Remember that these nuts were much larger on the outer surfaces than a modern nut of the same thread size. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) I am looking for tabbed washers that are 7/8" ID. These are for the rear wheels on a 1925 Standard. They are shown in the parts book on plate 28 as part number 61090. I am needing 2 of these. Thank you, Hugh Edited November 30, 2015 by gr8success (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbbuick22 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I still have a box full of these tab/lock washers, 3/4" to 2 1/4" ID and poss bigger. John 22-6-55 Sport Touring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_S Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Make a drawing and go to a shop that has a water jet cutting machine. Should not be too expensive for someone to make a few. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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