keiser31 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Someone sent me this and I cannot remember who. I just wanted whoever sent it to know that their brake shoes are on backwards. The smaller lining should be the "primary" shoe on the front of the backing plate. Sorry I cannot remember who this is from....some 1930 or 1931 Dodge Brothers guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I always thought that the old-type of brakes with the shoes anchored to the backing plate had no primary and secondary shoes. Aren't they are usually the same size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 I always thought that the old-type of brakes with the shoes anchored to the backing plate had no primary and secondary shoes. Aren't they are usually the same size?Not according to my 1931 Dodge Brothers DH6 instruction book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Sometimes I amaze myself with my own stupidity. The Instruction Book for my Plymouth is sitting right in front of me on my desk, and it has the exact same illustration in it. I learn something new every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Sometimes I amaze myself with my own stupidity. The Instruction Book for my Plymouth is sitting right in front of me on my desk, and it has the exact same illustration in it. I learn something new every day. If you are my age, brain farts are very common events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Gee...Chrysler must have changed because all of my other more recent shop manuals show the primary shoe as the short one. Mmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave7 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Taking all the emotion out...... The leading shoe is the one where the frictional force tends to push it onto the drum where the trailing shoe is lifted off the drum by the frictional force. The leading shoe does more work and has a bigger surface area.These shoes are correct for a wheel which is turning anti-clockwise as you look at the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) Jeez....no need to get nasty already. I believe you. Thanks for the lesson, Shinysideup. Edited October 23, 2009 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elmo39 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 wow this got me thinking so i got out some of the old manuals i have access to , the earliest i have for dodge is for a 1929 DA it say,s the primarary shoe is the rear shoe . the other manuals cover from 1935 through to 1954 , Dodge , Chrysler, DeSoto and Plymouth were all the same the rear shoe was the primarary shoe ,although the lengh of the shoe varied between makes and models, what chrysler used before 1935 i have no idea , but from 1935 they used the lockheed systym , other makes like Bendix which i think GM used the primarary shoe wasthe other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 The reason I started this thread is because I was looking at the brakes in question and then at a book for my Dodge truck. Without looking at the '31 Dodge manual closer, I assumed (I KNOW) that they should be as the more modern brakes are. My mistake and so sorry if I misled anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Read the rest of his post,all are somewhat neg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 This remark is uncalled for. I was also confused.Sent him a PM...deleted comments! :mad:Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xprefix28truck Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 So ..... which way is right? If the manual doesn't specify the picture in the manual as Left of Right, it would be hard to tell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progoofoff Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Sent him a PM...deleted comments! :mad:Wayne Dang, just when it was about to get interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) So ..... which way is right? If the manual doesn't specify the picture in the manual as Left of Right, it would be hard to tell....I just went out and looked at an extra 1931 Chrysler CM6 rear end (basically the same as the DH6) that has the factory brake setup on it. The longer lined shoe is toward the front of the car as in the manual. As I said previously, I am sorry that I was confused and REALLY sorry now that I did not research more before posting. Edited October 23, 2009 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 So ..... which way is right? If the manual doesn't specify the picture in the manual as Left of Right, it would be hard to tell....The manual DOES say #9 is the front half and #17 is the rear half...so that would be the left front in the diagram. I missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Keiser ,a mistake at best,dont worry about it.No need for anyone to chime in like he did.He just registered this october,lets let him tell us what he knows ,without being an a_______________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Keiser ,a mistake at best,dont worry about it.No need for anyone to chime in like he did.He just registered this october,lets let him tell us what he knows ,without being an a_______________He has made some rather rude comments on a few other post as well.Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 He has made some rather rude comments on a few other post as well.DaleHe's history, guys! W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Thanks,Mr Burgess,We ,as a team do not need it.Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xprefix28truck Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I just went out and looked at an extra 1931 Chrysler CM6 rear end (basically the same as the DH6) that has the factory brake setup on it. The longer lined shoe is toward the front of the car as in the manual. As I said previously, I am sorry that I was confused and REALLY sorry now that I did not research more before posting. Don't worry about it John... If I were doing it I would put the long in the rear. I know a couple of later models were this way...{if I am remembering right} I do know that some later ones I did recently were of the same length.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xprefix28truck Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 See other post of Auto Shop sites pictures.... this will confuse you even more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Mistakes, not me! Never..... Well maybe a few.... Well, alright then, when it comes to women, I've made plenty..... And a few on cars that I have corrected. Like leaving out a pilot bearing in a 1922 Page once. We were wondering why that tranny went in so easy until I spotted the li'l culprit on the floor board just under the seat. Now I'm an experianced expert on 1922 Page transmission installation. LOL at me self Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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