28Senior Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I'm a new Senior Six owner and have a 1928 Serial #1S26623. The head casting # is 8-201-345. Carb. side of engine has a stamped C with the following # underneath 30627. The car has been completely restored, but the rear seal is out of the engine. Upon lowering of the oil pan, the "pot" metal bracket that holds the rear seal in place, was fractured in about 6 pieces. It is fastened into the block with two screws. I need to find such a piece or something......... I'm a new Senior owner and could use any and all advice that I can get. Many thanks,Matt PalischJackson, Missouri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Try www.vintageandclassicreproductions.com ,they might be willing to cast a copy using your original as a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ronsnyder135E Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I too have the same problem. How did you resolve yours? I am in the process of making a wax cast and plan to make a new part cast from aluminum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Would you be able to have a second one cast and do you have an idea of cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huptoy Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 There is a fellow in Cal who was restoring a 1929 and needed to replace the rear main. This guy did unbelievable things in the restoration. Go to the following link. Scroll down to the post on "June 15 2008" to see how he handled the problem. http://forums.aaca.org/f190/1929-hupmobile-project-246532-2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ronsnyder135E Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I am still perfecting the casting process and will let you know when i have success. Trouble is that I have to make the casting oversize because of the aluminum shrinking thus requiring a lot of work to get the new casting to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I had a word with my local machine shop, the owner is trained Paten maker; he is of the opinion that is probable easier and stronger to have the bracket machine from the solid, rather than casting it .Please may I have a photograph and measurements of the bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Castings are always weaker if you try and compareIf its the same as DA - 6 Gundog and the other fellow does not or cant help than let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 1930, The part number for the Senior is 200103. Is it the same number for a DA-6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrjoe_sandiego Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 According to the parts book, part number 200103 applies to models 2249,2251,2252 and DB. It is not the same number for a DA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Listed as a 4 number in DA parts book so I guess as Joe pinted out it may not be the same animal, wouldnt surprise me though if it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 subject to price ,I wounder if there would be much interest in having a batch made. I have a spare 2249 engine, it was already stripped down when I got it; unfortunately I think the bracket is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I hahe a 2249 motor spare It is buried in a 20ft container at the present Still saving for a 50X 50 shed I could spend a day or so digging it out and dropping the sump off to see if the seal carrier is ok to get dimentions from regards Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Does your spare engine have it's original oil filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 What does the original oil filter look like for your particular engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The filter is Horizontal with the out and in at one end as per the b&w picture. The other photograph is the filter on my car , filter case is somewhat shorter than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I will surely keep my eyes open but I dont think I have ever seen anything quite like that. Thanks for the photo, if you dont mind is the filter Purolator or A/C. If it is Purolator than almost for sure I can provide you with at least a better picture from the side if you would like. I have the catalogs that go back that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Thank you that would be very useful; my parts book list A/C but Purolator might have listed an alternative filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 This may not help much but Purolator catalog goes into comparison of the original A/C filter used in your car and its own replacement filter. It states Sept 28 to Jun 29 replacement cartridge SA-2 which is the same as DA used originally according to pict, shown in data books...It has always been a mystery to me though that according to Purolator info a slighly different cartridge was used originally on DA but the filter that I show you here has been what has shown up more often on the original cars. I did by the way have have an example of the EA-2 that the Purolator book called for on DA but no longer have it.If you dont mind confirming how these prod. dates coincide in any way with senior six it would be appreciated.They also list a seperate kit for your car to reroute the lines as this filter has inlet at top and outlet at bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 My Car chassis number is IS 21365 ,it was probable made on the 25Th August 1927 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Gundog I have looked and cannot see a filter on my spare motor Iam sure that there was 1 on it Unfortunatley all of my car stuff is packed away in 2X20 ft containers as I am still arranging to have my shed built Ican access the 1 on my partialy restored car Please let me know exactly what you need and i will try to help My filter is sameas shown in the manual Regards Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ron,A side view photagraph and the Dimentions would be very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I am new to this forum and also computors I dont know how to post a picture Maybe my lovely wife will be able to help me I can still get the dims for you. What about the mounting bracket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 A top view showing the bracket would be great. I will PM my email address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2251DB Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I HAVE CAST SOME NEW REAR MAIN SEAL BRACKETS FOR THE 2249/51 ENGINEI HAVE ALSO SENT A PATTERN AND PART OF THE ENGINE BLOCK TO VINTAGE AND CLASSIC REPRODUCTIONS FOR A COSTINGTHESE WILL BE IN A ROUGH CASTING AND WOULD REQUIRE MACHINGOR IN MY CASE HAND FITTING WITH THE HELP OF A FILE AND GRINDERTHE ONE I MADE PREVIOUSLY WORKS WITH NO OIL LEAKS FROM THE ENGINEAFTER 900 MILES. TIME WILL TELL 2251 DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundog99 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 2251,Have you make any progress on the Rear Main Seal Bracket project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stakeside Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I HAVE CAST SOME NEW REAR MAIN SEAL BRACKETS FOR THE 2249/51 ENGINEI HAVE ALSO SENT A PATTERN AND PART OF THE ENGINE BLOCK TO VINTAGE AND CLASSIC REPRODUCTIONS FOR A COSTINGTHESE WILL BE IN A ROUGH CASTING AND WOULD REQUIRE MACHINGOR IN MY CASE HAND FITTING WITH THE HELP OF A FILE AND GRINDERTHE ONE I MADE PREVIOUSLY WORKS WITH NO OIL LEAKS FROM THE ENGINEAFTER 900 MILES. TIME WILL TELL2251 DBI am attempting to identify a "E" Series Graham truck with a 185 wheelbase. I believe it has a senior six since engine does not appear to be a victory or DA. Are there any picture of the side views of the senior engine and is the engine of head code 2252?A number is cast on the top of head near the firewall GB A514-270. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 It certainly looks like a Senior 6 engine to me The water outlet on the head is different to the non commercial engine Love the truck I have always wanted to restore a truck seeing that transport has been my career Oh well Maybe when I finnish my 2249 Senior 6 Tourer a truck could be my next project Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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